How about dem gas prices?
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CurrentlyPissed
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Sold my F-150 and bought a 2020 Civic Si. Not even kidding.
$97 to fill up, and that would last me a week. Getting ready to move and double driving distance in 2 months.
Filled up the Civic even with premium for $44, and get 60 more miles to a tank than the F150.
$97 to fill up, and that would last me a week. Getting ready to move and double driving distance in 2 months.
Filled up the Civic even with premium for $44, and get 60 more miles to a tank than the F150.
logical
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CurrentlyPissed
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Not even the type R?
Nah, not yet at least. Maybe when the 2023 version comes out, but right now used car market is too nuts, cheapest one I could find was 41k, they are $37k new, so I'd hate to spend 4k over what it cost new, and it have 40k miles that I'm sure weren't easy.
Sasquach
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Was looking at Tesla prices. Damn those things are expensive. Someone gimmie 125k for that Plaid.
Tesla:
Priced like a Lux/Ultralux brand, built like a Chevy Cavalier.
They're the iphones of the automotive world
Bought a new Mazda CX-5 a few weeks back. Was really hoping for a Tucson Hybrid or CR-V Hybrid instead, but couldn't a) find one or b) find one that wasn't grossly over priced with the dealer markups and "market adjustments" of close to 10k on these models...
Went with the Mazda because they weren't trying to **** me around. Got almost 9k on my shitty ass 2014 Ford Focus Titanium that has had the transmission replaced 3 times, and was feeling like it might need a 4th soon - only no longer under any warranty so this would be on my dime... CX-5 was MSRP. Mazda extended warranty and parts plan is actually a great deal. Love my car, was a bit upset about it not being the hybrid to get the extra space for the same MPG as the Focus, but... had come to terms with it on the CX5, and then, now the gas price is going up and its $60 to fill her up.....
As for the blame, a good deal of people would really do well to go through an old macro economics class again to learn the issues with supply and demand.
Went with the Mazda because they weren't trying to **** me around. Got almost 9k on my shitty ass 2014 Ford Focus Titanium that has had the transmission replaced 3 times, and was feeling like it might need a 4th soon - only no longer under any warranty so this would be on my dime... CX-5 was MSRP. Mazda extended warranty and parts plan is actually a great deal. Love my car, was a bit upset about it not being the hybrid to get the extra space for the same MPG as the Focus, but... had come to terms with it on the CX5, and then, now the gas price is going up and its $60 to fill her up.....
As for the blame, a good deal of people would really do well to go through an old macro economics class again to learn the issues with supply and demand.
logical
bout to lose my job TODAY
I feel ya on those prices
Was looking at Tesla prices. Damn those things are expensive. Someone gimmie 125k for that Plaid.
Just get the poor persons version, still plenty fast
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/0...ll-begin-testing-ev-vehicle-to-grid-charging/
I really don't care much for the grid part of it. Just standardize a connector protocol so folk can start using their EV's as a whole house UPS. Let folk decide on their own if they want to play electric rate arbitrage; no need to involve the electric company. This will make America more resilient to grid hacking from abroad or grid blowup from within or just plain frozen grid like what happened to TX last year.
PG&E will pilot bidirectional electric car charging in California
Ford and General Motors are both working with PG&E on trials.
I really don't care much for the grid part of it. Just standardize a connector protocol so folk can start using their EV's as a whole house UPS. Let folk decide on their own if they want to play electric rate arbitrage; no need to involve the electric company. This will make America more resilient to grid hacking from abroad or grid blowup from within or just plain frozen grid like what happened to TX last year.
Sasquach
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And not have an app for it...i mean god no one talks about this but you need to setup a million apps to use a charger......
https://www.vox.com/recode/22969335/california-gm-electric-cars-power-grid-batteries-blackouts
so when PG&E turns off everyone's power when the wind blows they can suck your car dry to power someone else
vehicle-to-home ability i want
but vehicle-to-grid .... nope
Greasy
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I don't think there is such a thing as a poor person's EV. Which is why mayor Buttheads remarks about gas prices was so tone deaf.
https://www.vox.com/recode/22969335/california-gm-electric-cars-power-grid-batteries-blackouts
so when PG&E turns off everyone's power when the wind blows they can suck your car dry to power someone else
vehicle-to-home ability i want
but vehicle-to-grid .... nope
Which is why I said I didn't care for the grid part of it. There's already been issues letting them turn your thermostat a few degrees when people bought those smart thermostats (namely most folk got a one time benefit but that's it and it's been years since then so the electric company has more than made back the credit and then some).
The sooner we can array industry to agree on a standard bi-directional charger the sooner we can incorporate that into new building codes so at a minimum people can just buy the charger when they get an EV without also having to do a full blown electrical install. Just like I don't expect to have to put in a 240v for a dryer these days because all modern houses have one.
Fords bi-directional charger on the Lighting only comes with the Extended-Range Battery and cost 10,000 bucks for both
not counting the Smart Switch in your house and in my case 180 feet of 2 AWG copper wire at about 460 bucks as my power planal is on the other side of the house from the carport
plus 100 amp breakers and switches, electrical conduit and so on
then if you can't DIY it like i will .........
it's a big cost to add to every new house and lots of building materials with the shortages going on
..........
i need the Extended-Range Battery so i will pay it but wouldn't want APS here using it to backup Walmart in a outage
Fords bi-directional charger on the Lighting only comes with the Extended-Range Battery and cost 10,000 bucks for both
not counting the Smart Switch in your house and in my case 180 feet of 2 AWG copper wire at about 460 bucks as my power planal is on the other side of the house from the carport
plus 100 amp breakers and switches, electrical conduit and so on
then if you can't DIY it like i will .........
it's a big cost to add to every new house and lots of building materials with the shortages going on
..........
i need the Extended-Range Battery so i will pay it but wouldn't want APS here using it to backup Walmart in a outage
Ford will let you draw 240v 100amp out and wouldn't you need to step that down for household use? I can't see how they would do anything more than a NG or propane external generator would output which usually uses the same kinda wire for dryer outlets.
it draws 80 Amps charging but needs 240v 100 Amp circuit breaker and wire in
the Extended-Range Battery has two 40 Amp charging circuits for faster charging
if ii read it right it steeps down in amps after a time
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38552140/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-battery-specs-revealed/
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