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Mangler Aug 2, 2021 12:41 PM

Wouldn't you need a performance jump that is in the hundreds in order to avoid upscaling techniques at <8k?

acroig Aug 2, 2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangler (Post 1338298564)
Wouldn't you need a performance jump that is in the hundreds in order to avoid upscaling techniques at <8k?

Honestly, who plays at 8K? :bleh:

bill dennison Aug 2, 2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338298563)
We always hope for a big jump! How much you expecting? 50%?

50% to 70% for Lovelace 4080 ti over a 3080 ti

100% to 150% for a 7800 xt over a 6800 xt with two chiplets
they are saying a much as 250% but they always go too high I think 100% to 150% is more real


both will be 400 + watts


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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338298566)
Honestly, who plays at 8K? :bleh:

this

we are years away from 8k without SLI/CFX :lol:

SIrPauly Aug 2, 2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338298562)
I just hope we do get a big jump this time :drool:

we need it and it may kill the need for DLSS/FSR at below 8k for most things

This logic doesn't make any sense based on no one is forced to use Dlss or Fsr and one can still choose Native. Why would you desire to kill Dlss or Fsr and force just native -- especially with all the limitations with Taa?

bill dennison Aug 2, 2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SIrPauly (Post 1338298595)
This logic doesn't make any sense based on no one is forced to use Dlss or Fsr and one can still choose Native. Why would you desire to kill Dlss or Fsr and force just native -- especially with all the limitations with Taa?

to get 60+ FPS at 4k with Ray Tracing without Dlss or Fsr

both Dlss & Fsr have issues also

and is taa the only type of anti aliasing now ?

and lastly no one is forcing you to turn Dlss & Fsr off even you have the power to run fully without it

but for me I would like to have the option to run RT at 4k with or without Dlss & Fsr and still get good FPS

Mangler Aug 2, 2021 06:19 PM

TAA is pretty much the default now.

Nunz Aug 2, 2021 08:50 PM

Yeah, and TAA is definitely not perfect. It's by far the best form of antialiasing outside of downsampling/super sampling, but the performance loss on the latter is huge.

demo Aug 3, 2021 04:00 AM

I dunno about that, I'd rather MSAA+trAA any day of the week. To me TAA is like a decent version of FXAA. Which I think that's what it is - a temporal shader based AA that alternates with each frame.

Nunz Aug 3, 2021 06:06 AM

It's too difficult to maintain high framerate and use MSAA at high resolution. Don't get me wrong, I don't think TAA looks all that great .. but with performance in mind it does do the trick, usually.

bill dennison Aug 3, 2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338298661)
It's too difficult to maintain high framerate and use MSAA at high resolution. Don't get me wrong, I don't think TAA looks all that great .. but with performance in mind it does do the trick, usually.

and if the 4080 ti is 70% faster ?

Hapatingjaky Aug 3, 2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338298697)
and if the 4080 ti is 70% faster ?


Nunz Aug 3, 2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338298697)
and if the 4080 ti is 70% faster ?

Cards get faster and games get more demanding. It's a never-ending cycle..

Lazy8s Aug 3, 2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338298701)
Cards get faster and games get more demanding. It's a never-ending cycle..

And the cost :eek:

Hapatingjaky Aug 3, 2021 11:15 AM

2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.

Lazy8s Aug 3, 2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hapatingjaky (Post 1338298703)
2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.

There’s only one other viable gaming upgrade path though. Unfortunately there isn’t a whole lot of choice available.

Nunz Aug 3, 2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hapatingjaky (Post 1338298703)
2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.

Eh. Maybe at stock. It's definitely more than 25-30% in my experience, but requires 4K to stretch the legs.

Not sure how it's 70% cost increase considering 2080TIs were $1500 at release.. lol. 2080TI FTW3 was $1499 if I'm not mistaken. $3080TI is same.

acroig Aug 3, 2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338298715)
Eh. Maybe at stock. It's definitely more than 25-30% in my experience, but requires 4K to stretch the legs.

Not sure how it's 70% cost increase considering 2080TIs were $1500 at release.. lol. 2080TI FTW3 was $1499 if I'm not mistaken. $3080TI is same.

Yeah Hapa, your figures don't add up here.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...-Ti/4115vs4027

bill dennison Aug 3, 2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s (Post 1338298709)
There’s only one other viable gaming upgrade path though. Unfortunately there isn’t a whole lot of choice available.

1.5

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Intel’s high-end gaming GPU could launch at CES 2022
https://www.techradar.com/news/intel...ch-at-ces-2022

but I don't trust Intel and raja


……..

but they do say the AMD 7800 xt will be faster than the 4080 ti but just as many watts and cost a lot -- maybe

Exposed Aug 3, 2021 01:16 PM

What's actually high end to Intel is low end mobile chips from Nvidia/AMD.

acroig Aug 3, 2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Exposed (Post 1338298732)
What's actually high end to Intel is low end mobile chips from Nvidia/AMD.

:lol: , I was thinking the same thing. 3dfx has a better shot at making a high end part than Intel. ;)

Lazy8s Aug 3, 2021 02:03 PM

hasn't intel been working on a dedicated gaming chip for like 20 years now?


:bleh:

acroig Aug 3, 2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s (Post 1338298737)
hasn't intel been working on a dedicated gaming chip for like 20 years now?


:bleh:

Sure feels that long...

Hapatingjaky Aug 3, 2021 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338298720)
Yeah Hapa, your figures don't add up here.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...-Ti/4115vs4027

I used GPUCheck

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvi...e-rtx-2080-ti/

demo Aug 3, 2021 11:46 PM

Vanilla 3080, not Ti ^

And what's the average for RT performance?

KAC Aug 4, 2021 03:50 AM

Excited about this new crap. Hopefully it comes out in 2022 and I don’t have to buy anything this year. Anyways, gays aren’t pushing any big games this year anyway so bleh.

acroig Aug 4, 2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338298865)
Anyways, gays aren’t pushing any big games this year anyway so bleh.

This.

badsykes Aug 9, 2021 02:44 AM



I found intersting what this guy said about next gen GPU from AMD and Nvidia.Jump to minute 49:27.
"Why nvidia and amd would give us such a huge generational increase in perfroamance ? "

acroig Aug 16, 2021 05:09 PM

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA....555634.0.html

bill dennison Aug 16, 2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338301236)

well that is hopper we knew that.....….

……... where is Linda XXX :p

acroig Aug 17, 2021 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338301284)
well that is hopper we knew that.....….

……... where is Linda XXX :p

We're gonna need a "deep throat" leak to find out. :p


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