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KAC Dec 11, 2020 09:43 PM

Ahahaha. 2 days later of grabbing a CPU my 5900X arrived in Dubai. lol. Will probably receive it tomorrow. **** me.

acroig Dec 11, 2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338251879)
Ahahaha. 2 days later of grabbing a CPU my 5900X arrived in Dubai. lol. Will probably receive it tomorrow. **** me.

Finally!

12Bass Dec 11, 2020 10:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLW04BycSzE


KAC Dec 12, 2020 02:21 AM

It’s out for delivery today. Man I really should’ve waited lol. Selling an AMD locally will be a bitch. :runaway:

badsykes Dec 12, 2020 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338251937)
It’s out for delivery today. Man I really should’ve waited lol. Selling an AMD locally will be a bitch. :runaway:

:D:D:D:lol::lol::nuts::nuts::evil:

KAC Dec 12, 2020 08:21 AM

Ok I think I need help again. I did nothing to this 5900X except:

Enable PBO
Set DDR4 to 3733
Set FCLK to 1866

Everything is running but hot damn it is idling at 60 C (max is 84 C in Real Bench - 2 C less than 5600X)
Voltage is about 1.48 typically. Voltage is bouncing around like a maniac.

Wtf? What should I do with this damn thing to:
1) Make it run cool at idle
2) Not apply 1.48 volts to the damn thing

Read some posts on forums and they say it is normal behavior. Well normal my ass. I can't have a 60 C idle CPU.

acroig Dec 12, 2020 08:34 AM

You're loving the Ryzen experience, eh?

Dave Dec 12, 2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338251155)

Over 500 posts in less than 25 days. You need to spend more time reading and researching and less time typing. Learn about how the new hardware works and the best way to configure it.


:arrow_up:

Riptide Dec 12, 2020 08:44 AM

Just leave it alone and let it run. This is how it works.

I'm going to lmao if you sell everything for an intel side-grade now that you've already side-graded yourself once for your use case.

Mangler Dec 12, 2020 08:55 AM

Stick with intel if you want a better month one experience.

badsykes Dec 12, 2020 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338251973)
Ok I think I need help again. I did nothing to this 5900X except:

Enable PBO
Set DDR4 to 3733
Set FCLK to 1866

Everything is running but hot damn it is idling at 60 C (max is 84 C in Real Bench - 2 C less than 5600X)
Voltage is about 1.48 typically. Voltage is bouncing around like a maniac.

Wtf? What should I do with this damn thing to:
1) Make it run cool at idle
2) Not apply 1.48 volts to the damn thing

Read some posts on forums and they say it is normal behavior. Well normal my ass. I can't have a 60 C idle CPU.


It's an 12 core CPU...What do you think ?

Dave Dec 12, 2020 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badsykes (Post 1338251988)
It's an 12 core CPU...What do you think ?


My 3900X (12 core) idles at 28C

badsykes Dec 12, 2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338251976)
You're loving the Ryzen experience, eh?

Now that the 12c /24t came he cannot go back to the shop and buy intel.... :D:heart:

badsykes Dec 12, 2020 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 1338251989)
My 3900X (12 core) idles at 28C


According to techpowerup graphs the load at stock is 67 C and oced to 4.5 ghz is 79 C


https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5900x/20.html

KAC Dec 12, 2020 09:36 AM

Not sure where the hate is coming from. If you guys don’t want to help that is fine. Nobody is forcing you to read a thread that is explicitly about helping me overclock this CPU.

Anyways, I lowered the voltage to 1.3 manually and it is idling at 53 C instead of 62 C. From a performance standpoint I see it routinely boost to 4.95 single core and usually stays around 4.6-4.7 on most cores.

I have only set PBO to auto, FCLK to 1866, DDR4 to 3733 and volts to 1.3. Didn’t touch anything else. My timespy score jumped from 16.2K with 8086K to 17.76K with this processor.

I am unable to replicate Cinebench results but my Real Bench jumped from 175K on 8086K to 310K with this processor. Everything apart from Cinebench seems to be correct.

Will play some more. Also I have never seen Cinebench run this fast lol :eek:

Mangler Dec 12, 2020 09:44 AM

Did you have EGS running when you had 60C idle temps?

KAC Dec 12, 2020 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangler (Post 1338252001)
Did you have EGS running when you had 60C idle temps?

Yes I have it running all the time.
Just closed it and idle dropped to 46 C. Wtf? It was 53 C before. What does that have to do with anything?
I am still punching 1.3 volts only though. Everything seems stable. I may drop voltage to 1.25 and test next.
Game temps are 73 C in HZD.

Mangler Dec 12, 2020 09:48 AM

I think someone in the ryzen 5000 thread mentioned that having EGS running prevented him from having the CPU going Idle for real.

KAC Dec 12, 2020 10:00 AM

Sold my 5600X. Ate the 30 bucks loss.
Processor is good tbh. I think I can live with 73-75 C gaming temps. Just need to try and lower volts further and let it do its thing.
Closed EGS and its idling at 45 C.

Meteor_of_War Dec 12, 2020 10:12 AM

Make sure to retest your performance benchmarks since you lowered voltage to 1.3. With my Zen 2 CPU when i lowered voltage to make it run cooler it also lost some performance. In the end after lots of testing i ended up just using a negative offset of -0.048. That was the lowest i could go on the voltage before Cinebench score started to suffer.

Don't worry about it running at close to 1.5v. It worried me at first too but that is normal operating voltage for Ryzen. I spent a good amount of time reading up on that.

Riptide Dec 12, 2020 10:39 AM

Every ryzen I've had is all over the place constantly even at idle on voltage and temps spiking and drooping. Unless I shut off CPB, this is the outcome. I'm on a 280mm aio and this 5950x idles in the 40s and 50s, and it doesn't stay still for long either.

Nascar24 Dec 12, 2020 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338251973)
Ok I think I need help again. I did nothing to this 5900X except:

Enable PBO
Set DDR4 to 3733
Set FCLK to 1866

Everything is running but hot damn it is idling at 60 C (max is 84 C in Real Bench - 2 C less than 5600X)
Voltage is about 1.48 typically. Voltage is bouncing around like a maniac.

Wtf? What should I do with this damn thing to:
1) Make it run cool at idle
2) Not apply 1.48 volts to the damn thing

Read some posts on forums and they say it is normal behavior. Well normal my ass. I can't have a 60 C idle CPU.

I was having this problem while allowing the EPIC launcher to run, dropped 10c once I shut it down. Zen 3 idles hot, although I see 60c as excessive I Idle around 50c and not at all worried about it. It tops out at 80c in game. I posted an article somewhere in the 5000 thread that states yes Zen 3 runs hot. At least it isnt only me with the EPIC Launcher, maybe they just did an update and its jacking with Ryzen, I now am not running it at boot until that is sorted at some point.

KAC Dec 12, 2020 11:45 AM

Well I managed to do some stuff. In games it is boosting till 4.8 Gs and sometimes hits 4.95 Gs when I put load on it.

Max temps when benching hard (like Real Bench stress test) is about 84 C. For most benches it is typically around 80 C.

Max temps while playing Cyberpunk for 1 hour is about 70 C. HZD bench will put it at 73 C tops.

It is now idling at 45 C. I put volts to 1.25 volts for daily use. My real bench jumped from 310K to 319K. I didn't try other benches but my game FPS remained the same (tested ACO, FCND and HZD).

I think I will leave it here for now and see what's up.

acroig Dec 12, 2020 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338252044)
Well I managed to do some stuff. In games it is boosting till 4.8 Gs and sometimes hits 4.95 Gs when I put load on it.

Max temps when benching hard (like Real Bench stress test) is about 84 C. For most benches it is typically around 80 C.

Max temps while playing Cyberpunk for 1 hour is about 70 C. HZD bench will put it at 73 C tops.

It is now idling at 45 C. I put volts to 1.25 volts for daily use. My real bench jumped from 310K to 319K. I didn't try other benches but my game FPS remained the same (tested ACO, FCND and HZD).

I think I will leave it here for now and see what's up.

Would you re-run your games benchmarks so I can compare with 5600x and 8086K plz?

KAC Dec 12, 2020 08:27 PM

5900X is 1-3 FPS higher than 5600X which was 1-5 FPS higher than 8086K.

Riptide Dec 12, 2020 08:54 PM

What is the general consensus as far as enabling 2T and disabling gear down mode vs. 1T and keeping it enabled?

acroig Dec 12, 2020 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338252171)
5900X is 1-3 FPS higher than 5600X which was 1-5 FPS higher than 8086K.

Thanks.

KAC Dec 12, 2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide (Post 1338252177)
What is the general consensus as far as enabling 2T and disabling gear down mode vs. 1T and keeping it enabled?

I don’t even know what gear down is but my ram runs 1T automatically.

KAC Dec 12, 2020 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338252178)
Thanks.

Some examples.

ACO
5600X - 92
8086K - 92
5900X - 93

HZD
5600X - 130
8086K - 130
5900X - 132

:lol:

12Bass Dec 12, 2020 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide (Post 1338252177)
What is the general consensus as far as enabling 2T and disabling gear down mode vs. 1T and keeping it enabled?

On my Z370/8700K system, 1T provides a small performance increase. Tightening RAM timings netted an even larger increase. The gains from RAM tweaking tend to be small but cumulative. Curiously, I found that I actually had to lower some of the (inflated) XMP voltages back to normal in order to get 1T to run reliably on my previous Z170 system. Eventually, I got my 32GB G.Skill Hynix MFR DDR4-3200 CL16 kit running at 3333MHz CL15-16-16-32 (@1.36v), with read over 51,000 MB/s, write over 50,000 MB/s, and copy over 48,000 MB/s in AIDA64. However, for gaming, such increases in RAM speed likely make a negligible difference if the system is GPU limited.


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