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Higgy10 Nov 19, 2020 01:57 PM

Official Navi2x/6x00 series thread
 
Specs and numbers and benches pls and thanks

Lets try and keep this civil pls

SuperGeil Nov 19, 2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Higgy10 (Post 1338245942)
Specs and numbers and benches pls and thanks

Lets try and keep this civil pls

I suspect with time, because of AMD's iron grip on the console market, we will see more and more Fidelity FX titles on PC. A new golden age for Radeon for sure.

LordHawkwind Nov 19, 2020 03:18 PM

OK Bill you called me out on AMD drivers at launch and in general. Here are a few of the known issues with the latest (6800) driver.

1. Metro Exodus™, Shadow of the Tomb Raider™, Battlefield™ V, Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty®: Black Ops Cold War may experience intermittent application crashes with DirectX® Raytracing enabled.

Oops that a big bug for 6800 cards. So RT basically not usable yet in the only games that support 6800. Ergo it's broke and doesn't work properly now there's a shock :lol:

2 Anisotropic Filtering in Radeon Software graphics settings is not taking effect in DirexctX®9 applications on RDNA graphics products.

Someone mentioned this in a previous post and it's still not fixed. Not a big one but maybe worth mentioning that they've not bothered fixing it.

LordHawkwind Nov 19, 2020 03:25 PM

OK Higgy about two people managed to buy one on launch day. I think this should still be the unofficial page as it was a massive paper launch. I noticed you didn't call it the owners thread :lol:

I'll try and buy an AIB 6800XT next Wednesday but if not possible I'm giving up and will wait until next year and then see which is more available, the 6800XT or 3080. Toss of a coin really. Lost faith in AMD after yesterday TBH. They fed us total BS IMHO. Just my 2c's.

Kombatant Nov 19, 2020 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind (Post 1338245963)
OK Bill you called me out on AMD drivers at launch and in general. Here are a few of the known issues with the latest (6800) driver.

1. Metro Exodus™, Shadow of the Tomb Raider™, Battlefield™ V, Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty®: Black Ops Cold War may experience intermittent application crashes with DirectX® Raytracing enabled.

Oops that a big bug for 6800 cards. So RT basically not usable yet in the only games that support 6800. Ergo it's broke and doesn't work properly now there's a shock :lol:

2 Anisotropic Filtering in Radeon Software graphics settings is not taking effect in DirexctX®9 applications on RDNA graphics products.

Someone mentioned this in a previous post and it's still not fixed. Not a big one but maybe worth mentioning that they've not bothered fixing it.

This is 100% trolling. That's not what the release notes say - "may" and "intermittent" is different than "not usable" and "broken". Also not being able to force AF on DX9 games from the app doesn't mean that, if you enable AF from within game it won't work. So please stop trying to initiate a flame war around here.

LordHawkwind Nov 19, 2020 03:32 PM

Oh dear here's Gibbo from Overclockers UK's take on next Wednesday's AIB launch.

"Limited to nearly no stock. We will launch at 2pm but won't allow ordering and then later in the day we shall make ordering possible once the web traffic drops down, hopefully this plan will help prevent such crazy overselling."

A bit of a joke really from AMD. No better than Nvidia even though scum bag Azor had the temerity to say the 6800 wouldn't be a paper launch. Ha. Sack him now.

Higgy10 Nov 19, 2020 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind (Post 1338245963)
OK Bill you called me out on AMD drivers at launch and in general. Here are a few of the known issues with the latest (6800) driver.

1. Metro Exodus™, Shadow of the Tomb Raider™, Battlefield™ V, Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty®: Black Ops Cold War may experience intermittent application crashes with DirectX® Raytracing enabled.

Oops that a big bug for 6800 cards. So RT basically not usable yet in the only games that support 6800. Ergo it's broke and doesn't work properly now there's a shock :lol:

2 Anisotropic Filtering in Radeon Software graphics settings is not taking effect in DirexctX®9 applications on RDNA graphics products.

Someone mentioned this in a previous post and it's still not fixed. Not a big one but maybe worth mentioning that they've not bothered fixing it.

we have a section for drivers

SuperGeil Nov 19, 2020 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind (Post 1338245971)
So you're the new tone of AMD are you? Trying to abuse your customers because you think we're too stupid to understand? An apology would be gratefully accepted.

Du meine Güte! :lol:
It's just video cards, Alter. We will all be ok.

bill dennison Nov 19, 2020 04:33 PM

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AMD RX 6800 XT GPU breaks world record while overclocked to 2.65GHz – and without any fancy cooling
Quote:

AMD’s Radeon RX 6800 XT has only just been released, but it has already taken one world record in a benchmark – albeit with a caveat – and proved that those rumors about Big Navi having great overclocking potential are true.

Videocardz spotted ‘Lucky_n00b’ (Indonesian overclocker Alva Jonathan) pushing the RX 6800 XT with a boost overclock to 2.65GHz on air – in other words, just using the graphics card’s stock fans, with no fancy cooling, which is seriously impressive in itself. Although the CPU it was paired with (AMD’s Ryzen 5950X) for the 3DMark Fire Strike record on HWBOT was liquid nitrogen-cooled (and ramped up to 5.4GHz).

The resulting tally of 47,932 took top spot on HWBOT, dethroning the reigning champion GPU which was Nvidia’s mighty RTX 3090. However, note that tessellation was disabled for the Big Navi card, which isn’t allowed when it comes to 3DMark’s Hall of Fame, hence this score didn’t count for that ranking.


https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-r...-fancy-cooling

2.65GHz :eek:

i want to see it watered cooled badly :drool:

Megaman Nov 19, 2020 04:43 PM

Is that even netting large performance numbers? What would the performance increase be? Like 10%?

bill dennison Nov 19, 2020 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338245994)
Tessellation disabled.. and I'd chalk a good portion of that score to the LN2 5950X. You'd have to look at graphics scores to compare the GPUs.

AMD has historically been superior in Firestrike, for whatever reason. They are slower in Timespy though.. no clue why.

:lol:

who cares about the score
but here they are
but 2.65GHz on air on the video card


https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6...n-air-cooling/

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In terms of performance, the AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT at 2.65 GHz on air scored 47932 points in 3D Mark Fire Strike which is currently the world record for any single-GPU graphics card. The GeForce RTX 3090 in comparison when overclocked to 2.385 GHz on LN2 cooling is only able to score 47725 points. This is the first time in a long while that AMD has managed to pounce NVIDIA in core clocks.

The lead is less than 0.5% for the Radeon RX 6800 XT but Air cooling vs LN2 cooling makes it quite huge for AMD. With that said, the Radeon RX 6800 XT isn't even the top AMD GPU and that title will be given to the Radeon RX 6900 XT which launches next month. We can expect the RX 6900 XT to offer even faster performance when overclocked on air and there's a good chance with LN2, these cards will be able to breach the 50K Fire Strike barrier, setting a new bar for overclockers & future GPUs.
they need to bring out a 6900 xt full watercooled card with a much higher power limit and yea maybe a 3 - 8 pin power card for say 1199 :drool:

it would kill the 3090

NIGELG Nov 19, 2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LordHawkwind (Post 1338245993)
OK Higgy it's like George Orwell's Animal farm on this thread. All Ragers are equal but Kombatant is more equal than others and he can call people all the names he want's with no retribution. Really? He called me a troll are you too scared to call him out? You didn't hesitate with KAC. Maybe you need to understand AMD employees are not above the rules and apply them fairly. That's all I'm saying. I see his post is still up :lol:

Or is this response going to disappear too? Please take his post down and tell him that it was unacceptable and reprimand him like you did KAC. Either apply the rules or don't. Is this where AMD are going..sad really.

Otherwise ban me forever for trying to be honest and give feedback or admit anyone who for works for AMD is above God level and can't be questioned :lol: Joke.

Quit your whining and stay on topic.

I think AMD did well here and are in the top end game after being out for a long time. The massively overhyped ray tracing will get better I think. I'll be in the market early next year for an all AMD build.

pax Nov 19, 2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338245987)
2.65GHz :eek:

i want to see it watered cooled badly :drool:

I knew it! Didnt I say it 2.6-2.7 golden sample? They really need to slap 18gbps ram on a high end model. I mean you cant have the same memory arch from 6800 to 6800xt to 6900xt... its starting to be little weird and im sure abit bottle necked but explains why the 6800 does so well with just 60 cus.

That powercolor one btw is 3 full slots but its looks heavy as hell.

AllexxisF1 Nov 19, 2020 07:59 PM

Holy schinikes.

It's gonna be great to see Steve, Jay and Paul be like WAT!? They're gonna have to do another competition round.

Beating the 3090 on LN2...with only air. HOLY COW.:lol: :cool:

acroig Nov 19, 2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AllexxisF1 (Post 1338246049)
Holy schinikes.

It's gonna be great to see Steve, Jay and Paul be like WAT!? They're gonna have to do another competition round.

Beating the 3090 on LN2...with only air. HOLY COW.:lol: :cool:

Yeah, I'll tune in for that one. Great times for AMD, as gamers we should all be pleased that AMD is back in force. Competition is a wonderful thing.

About that availability though.....

Nunz Nov 19, 2020 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AllexxisF1 (Post 1338246049)
Holy schinikes.

It's gonna be great to see Steve, Jay and Paul be like WAT!? They're gonna have to do another competition round.

Beating the 3090 on LN2...with only air. HOLY COW.:lol: :cool:

This is the issue with the headlines. It's not (maybe). Tessellation is off for some reason and that's making the graphics score not comparable.

The real gem in that article is the 5950X hitting 5.45Ghz on LN2 and the CPU score being tremendous. Also, holy **** 1.66v LOL

NIGELG Nov 19, 2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338246052)

About that availability though.....

Again, one needs patience in the year 2020.

acroig Nov 19, 2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGELG (Post 1338246057)
Again, one needs patience in the year 2020.

I know, it's not my strong suit.

pax Nov 19, 2020 08:14 PM

About AMD's RT perf it will get better :

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/...67548907937792



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Bits And Chips - Eng
@BitsAndChipsEng
NVIDIA RT software implementation is just a proprietary standard layer over DX12 API. AMD RDNA2 will gain performance when develeopers will use an agnostic (AKA DX12) implementation. PS5 and XBOX will help AMD.

acroig Nov 19, 2020 08:24 PM

Anyone see Jay roast the 6800 launch? Ouch...

pax Nov 19, 2020 09:12 PM

Video of the tech demo.


bill dennison Nov 19, 2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338246060)
I know, it's not my strong suit.

we know

you said you would last to the AMD review

but then you blow your load when crashcar24 undid his first button :hmm:


kids today no staying power :p

acroig Nov 19, 2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338246079)
we know

you said you would last to the AMD review

but then you blow your load when crashcar24 undid his first button :hmm:


kids today no staying power :p

ROFL! You bastid....:lol:

Nascar24 Nov 19, 2020 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338246079)
we know

you said you would last to the AMD review

but then you blow your load when crashcar24 undid his first button :hmm:


kids today no staying power :p

Well hell yea, and it turned out to be the right choice on several levels, the top being he could actually buy one!:p

bill dennison Nov 19, 2020 09:57 PM

the 3080 and somewhat the 3090 is in for the death of a thousand cuts in the benchmarks and news


a 6080 xt reference card hits 2.65GHz on air beats a 3090 on ln2

wait till the 25th and the aftermarket cards like the Strix and that Red Devil hit and the reviewers get them and start pushing them

and if the AMD aftermarket cards hit with better stock like some say and stock picks up by the 8th like past AMD cards after the first few weeks
and yes they are both normally slow stock to start and picking up in a few weeks NV didn't this time we will have to wait a month and see if AMD can

but the 6900 xt may well kill the 3080 ti before it is even out
and if they make aftermarket cards like a 6900 xt Red Devil it will

Nascar24 Nov 19, 2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338246091)
the 3080 and somewhat the 3090 is in for the death of a thousand cuts in the benchmarks and news


a 6080 xt reference card hits 2.65GHz on air beats a 3090 on ln2

wait till the 25th and the aftermarket cards like the Strix and that Red Devil hit and the reviewers get them and start pushing them

and if the AMD aftermarket cards hit with better stock like some say and stock picks up by the 8th like past AMD cards after the first few weeks
and yes they are both normally slow stock to start and picking up in a few weeks NV didn't this time we will have to wait a month and see if AMD can

but the 6900 xt may well kill the 3080 ti before it is even out
and if they make aftermarket cards like a 6900 xt Red Devil it will

:lol: :lol: Billy we already heard all that non sense, it’s just not the case.

OverclockN' Nov 19, 2020 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24 (Post 1338246093)
:lol: :lol: Billy we already heard all that non sense, it’s just not the case.

But if this happens, and if those things happen, and if then that happens... :lol:

Greasy Nov 19, 2020 11:02 PM

Bots gonna buy all those too bro. Nike, please release a bunch of new jordans and wtf else ever people like to waste money on asap.

Gandalfthewhite Nov 19, 2020 11:04 PM

I'll be trying to get a 6800xt or 6900xt. Using the 3080 till I can get a card worked it out with the buddy who is buying it.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

Nagorak Nov 19, 2020 11:53 PM

So, after watching some more reviews:

It looks to me like for 4K you want RTX 3000 series. For 1440P and below the 6800 series looks good. At least if we're talking about rasterization. I have to wonder whether it's the limited memory bandwidth that's holding the cards back in 4K?

Ray tracing performance is passable, but a little disappointing. The lack of a DLSS equivalent really hurts, since ray tracing is basically unplayable in some games without it. I don't fully cut AMD slack on this based on it being their "first gen of ray tracing", because Nvidia didn't really see much improvement in ray tracing with Ampere, outside it simply scaling with the cards being faster. I think it's still basically 1st gen vs 1st gen and AMD's implementation is not as good. It could be newer drivers and tweaks by game developers can improve it, but the jury is still out on that one.

The efficiency is nice compared to Ampere, however not all places saw the large difference that TechPowerUp did. I guess it depends on the game? Regardless, greater efficiency is still a plus.

Overall I think the cards are priced correctly, and are a decent product, not an amazing product. (However by that same measure, Ampere is also only a decent product.)

It's still impressive that AMD is back in the game and actually is more efficient for a change. This is their most competitive card released in a long time, I'd say going back all the way to 290X released 7 years ago. Hopefully this is the start of consistent improvement on the part of AMD, which means competition will heat up again in the GPU market.

In the end how well the cards do will come down to availability. If the AIBs show up in force next week then AMD will get a lot of sales. If the GPU shortage continues then the real determination will come down to how many cards AMD and Nvidia can deliver, with both selling everything they make.

demo Nov 20, 2020 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338245994)
Tessellation disabled.. and I'd chalk a good portion of that score to the LN2 5950X. You'd have to look at graphics scores to compare the GPUs.

AMD has historically been superior in Firestrike, for whatever reason. They are slower in Timespy though.. no clue why.

Yeh exactly, Tess off and who knows what else, in 1080p FS with 5950x @ 5.4. As you know, AMD does unnaturally well in FS for whatever reason and scores don't translate well to other benchmarks or games.

In his comments he states GPU score with Tess on is 'close to 50k' (for reference I just scored 51k), and has this benchmark run hidden - presumably because it doesn't look so hot. Then goes on to say raster gaming is around 3080 level and DXR gaming around 2080TI level. No surprises there. He also predicts single digit gains with 6900XT.

pax Nov 20, 2020 01:11 AM



@18.02

They are doing something interesting with Infinity cache that they havent announced yet. But some games have had insanely high low 1% scores. IC has some real potential.

Other time stamps:


Quote:

@7:50 Cudo's to AMD for launching competitive Card. With a trifecta kind of staggered launch: AMD is launching CPU's/GPUs/Consoles.

@9:35 both CPU and GPU collaborated together to bring the RX 6000 series. Better power to performance matrix.

@14:25 AMD will have laptop variants but wouldn't comment about it nor elaborate on it/when/how/etc

@18:02 Reason for using Infinity Cache. In particular they have another announcement they are making about Infinity Cache. He didn't commit to a time frame. But said it will pretty soon (tm).

@19:49 Vram Discussed: Using 16GB Vram and infinity cache and the 6000 series still uses less power then Ampere

@22:00: AMD will ensure that developers will take advantage of AMD Ecosystem between consoles/PC. As developers don't want to worry about a myrid of pc configurations. They prefer a closed form factor. Because AMD is Uarch used in console games developers will use more vram, RT (based on how AMD wants it), and all the other things AMD wants in games.

@26:40 RT/DLSS Discussed. He stated as new games are launched they will improve RT performance. But he emphasized new titles. He also emphasized that when you are coding for the console you are coding for AMD.

@28:30 DLSS Discussed. Originally was going to develop their own API. Developers begged AMD not to create another API (would only work with Radeon). So they are going for an open solution. Developers do not like having to fetch AMD/Nvidia reps to come on site to help code for their games (that's some juicy gossip right there, I didn't know that). They are still working on this with developers which is why it's not ready yet. (Or else they would have launched this API he speaks of.)

@32:25 (several minutes) Smart Access Memory Discussed. AMD never said that SAM wouldn't work with other hardware. AMD simply focused their efforts on this generation of hardware. Validation work, communication protocol work, tweaking, etc. He said they are still undecided on older hardware but they love backward compatibility... They are still evaluating it. MORE PERFORMANCE IS COMING AS IT MATURES. (Is that tied into infinity cached he mentioned earlier??? Hmmm...) But it is clear that Intel has to be involved with their bios, etc to get it to work for Nvidia. It's not just a nvidia thing. It's more then just a driver update. Nvidia told PCWorld they felt that AMD would hard block them. Scott said they wouldn't hard block them. (perhaps soft block them, lol /s)

@37:45 Question: Why are you doing that (allowing Nvidia in for SAM on AMD) when nvidia tried to flip freesync to g-sync as they out marketed AMD in branding. Do you run the risk of Nvidia re-market/rebranding SAM to something Nvida will claim as their own? Answer: To be determined...
(I'm flabbergasted. Perhaps he can't say in front of the camera but I hope AMD isn't dumb enough to let nvidia in w/o paying monthly royalty fees/SAM for rent.)

@38:40 Smart Shift Discussion

@41:00 Infinity Cache just L3 cache? Mainly L3 Cache with special Sauce. He won't reveal exactly what it is yet.

@45:00 Sapphire does not help design reference pcb

@51:45 Availability discussed. They are shipping cards everyday. They like the EVGA queue system. But wouldn't elaborate. AMD website was able to stop scalpers. Other partners were able to stop some of them.

@55:50 RT will be rolled out there the entire RX6000 series stack.

@56:30 Varible Rate Shading Discussed (a few minutes) with Radeon boost with Ray Tracing to improve performance

@57:10 Direct Storage coming...but not elaborated on

demo Nov 20, 2020 01:26 AM

This part was interesting:

Quote:

DLSS Discussed. Originally was going to develop their own API. Developers begged AMD not to create another API (would only work with Radeon). So they are going for an open solution.
DLSS may end up dead with devs opting for an open alternative used on consoles. Nvidias only hope would be to market DLSS as having superior IQ.

NWR_Midnight Nov 20, 2020 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagorak (Post 1338246106)
So, after watching some more reviews:

It looks to me like for 4K you want RTX 3000 series. For 1440P and below the 6800 series looks good. At least if we're talking about rasterization. I have to wonder whether it's the limited memory bandwidth that's holding the cards back in 4K?

Ray tracing performance is passable, but a little disappointing. The lack of a DLSS equivalent really hurts, since ray tracing is basically unplayable in some games without it. I don't fully cut AMD slack on this based on it being their "first gen of ray tracing", because Nvidia didn't really see much improvement in ray tracing with Ampere, outside it simply scaling with the cards being faster. I think it's still basically 1st gen vs 1st gen and AMD's implementation is not as good. It could be newer drivers and tweaks by game developers can improve it, but the jury is still out on that one.

The efficiency is nice compared to Ampere, however not all places saw the large difference that TechPowerUp did. I guess it depends on the game? Regardless, greater efficiency is still a plus.

Overall I think the cards are priced correctly, and are a decent product, not an amazing product. (However by that same measure, Ampere is also only a decent product.)

It's still impressive that AMD is back in the game and actually is more efficient for a change. This is their most competitive card released in a long time, I'd say going back all the way to 290X released 7 years ago. Hopefully this is the start of consistent improvement on the part of AMD, which means competition will heat up again in the GPU market.

In the end how well the cards do will come down to availability. If the AIBs show up in force next week then AMD will get a lot of sales. If the GPU shortage continues then the real determination will come down to how many cards AMD and Nvidia can deliver, with both selling everything they make.

I don't think you are necessarily being fair in your view on Ray tracing. Nvidia has been working on their generation 1 for 2 years, and when their ray tracing was first introduced 2 years ago, it's performance was much, much worse than it is today, as well of also running into bugs. So I don't think you can call it first gen against first gen unless you go back and compare day 1 AMD to day 1 Nvidia. Nvidia required multiple patches in BF5 to deal with some of the issues, along with performance enhancements optimizations, which wasn't full illumination. They have also had 2 years to optimize it via drivers. The fact that the Ampere isn't really an improvement is really a huge black mark on Nvidia. Out of the gate, AMD is expected to do full illumination from the get go and shine? Yet, full illumination didn't' even happen for Nvidia until Metro Exodus. Not to mention that Nvidia had their hand in the cookie jar the whole time having all these games optimized for them. Sot heir should be a little more slack given to AMD than what it appears you are giving. Just my opinion.

bill dennison Nov 20, 2020 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by demo (Post 1338246119)
This part was interesting:



DLSS may end up dead with devs opting for an open alternative used on consoles. Nvidias only hope would be to market DLSS as having superior IQ.

they won't but the smart thing for NV would do a preemptive strike and open DLSS to all

but AMD will do it open with Sony and M$ consoles and game devs it will take over just like freesync did

they could scream superior IQ all day but if people can't really see it it won't matter
and if you really want superior IQ you want DLSS off .

bill dennison Nov 20, 2020 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWR_Midnight (Post 1338246122)
I don't think you are necessarily being fair in your view on Ray tracing. Nvidia has been working on their generation 1 for 2 years, and when their ray tracing was first introduced 2 years ago, it's performance was much, much worse than it is today, as well of also running into bugs. So I don't think you can call it first gen against first gen unless you go back and compare day 1 AMD to day 1 Nvidia. Nvidia required multiple patches in BF5 to deal with some of the issues, along with performance enhancements optimizations, which wasn't full illumination. They have also had 2 years to optimize it via drivers. The fact that the Ampere isn't really an improvement is really a huge black mark on Nvidia. Out of the gate, AMD is expected to do full illumination from the get go and shine? Yet, full illumination didn't' even happen for Nvidia until Metro Exodus. Not to mention that Nvidia had their hand in the cookie jar the whole time having all these games optimized for them. Sot heir should be a little more slack given to AMD than what it appears you are giving. Just my opinion.

:lol:

you can't it was close to two months after the 2080 ti came out before the first ray tracing game Battlefield V came out and you could do more than a short demo with a 1200 buck RT card

and then it was months between new RT games for NV to tweak them
then with some games RT and or DLSS was added 6 months after the game came out

and lets get real

Quote:

Ray tracing games you can play right now:


Amid Evil
Battlefield V
Bright Memory
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019)
Control
Crysis Remastered
Deliver Us The Moon
Fortnite
Ghostrunner
Justice
Mechwarrior V: Mercenaries
Metro Exodus
Minecraft
Moonlight Blade
Pumpkin Jack
Quake II RTX
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Stay in the Light
Watch Dogs Legion
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/202...ss-games-2020/

and some of them just plain suck .

badsykes Nov 20, 2020 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison (Post 1338246126)
:lol:

you can't it was close to two months after the 2080 ti came out before the first ray tracing game Battlefield V came out and you could do more than a short demo with a 1200 buck RT card

and then it was months between new RT games for NV to tweak them
then with some games RT and or DLSS was added 6 months after the game came out

and lets get real



https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/202...ss-games-2020/

and some of them just plain suck .


And another matter is ....
When only a 700-800 $ GPU + fancy CPU can play RT at more than 60 fps at 1080p or 1440p and usually this guys have 4k stuff... What do you do with native resolution if one wants to play RT smooth ? Change the monitor ? Downscaling from native resolution is looking bad from what i know ?

Megaman Nov 20, 2020 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by badsykes (Post 1338246128)
And another matter is ....
When only a 700-800 $ GPU + fancy CPU can play RT at more than 60 fps at 1080p or 1440p and usually this guys have 4k stuff... What do you do with native resolution if one wants to play RT smooth ? Change the monitor ? Downscaling from native resolution is looking bad from what i know ?

You wait for the 3085. Then you wait for the 4080, then the 4085 and so on.

LordHawkwind Nov 20, 2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338246066)
Anyone see Jay roast the 6800 launch? Ouch...

Ouch indeed :lol: I particulaly like the graph re vapour ware :lol: :lol:

acroig Nov 20, 2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LordHawkwind (Post 1338246139)
Ouch indeed :lol: I particulaly like the graph re vapour ware :lol: :lol:

Yeah, lol. I'm hoping for lots more inventory on the 25th.


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