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GSGRUNT Jun 29, 2021 06:30 AM

Installing Win11 now...
 
I don't care for Win10 GUI. Hoping Win11 will fix it. Videos make it look more like modern Linux, which I like.

[edit 1]
Install went well. All devices recognized. First and only game I tested(Control) runs great.

x-voodoo Jun 29, 2021 06:56 AM

Cool....I just found out my 6700k is not supported by Win11 :(

Seyiji Jun 29, 2021 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSGRUNT (Post 1338293071)
I don't care for Win10 GUI. Hoping Win11 will fix it. Videos make it look more like modern Linux, which I like.

[edit 1]
Install went well. All devices recognized. First and only game I tested(Control) runs great.

:drool:

Post pix of things and stuff :D

GSGRUNT Jun 29, 2021 07:38 AM

WSL is much simpler!
Linux GUI apps run without third party 'xserver'.
WSL drives show up in Windows Explorer.

Haven't tried GPU acceleration in Linux apps yet.

[edit]
Some sound latency issues in Linux GUI apps

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seyiji (Post 1338293086)
:drool:

Post pix of things and stuff :D

.

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 10:16 AM

Downloading Win11 arm64 preview now. Gonna check it out in a VM on my Macbook. That way if anything goes tits-up I'll just redo the VM.

Hapatingjaky Jun 29, 2021 11:05 AM

You got a link for the public preview?

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hapatingjaky (Post 1338293173)
You got a link for the public preview?

No it showed up in Windows Update. I'm in the Insider Program so I can use the Arm64 version of Windows.

Hapatingjaky Jun 29, 2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munkus (Post 1338293174)
No it showed up in Windows Update. I'm in the Insider Program so I can use the Arm64 version of Windows.

I am member as well but I have no link even logging in to the developer site nets me nothing.

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hapatingjaky (Post 1338293176)
I am member as well but I have no link even logging in to the developer site nets me nothing.

Maybe it's just the ARM64 version? I dunno.

Obligatory screenies.






GSGRUNT Jun 29, 2021 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hapatingjaky (Post 1338293176)
I am member as well but I have no link even logging in to the developer site nets me nothing.

Up your "flight" to dev mode.
I was beta mode and it didn't show up. Switched to developer mode and it downloaded.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/understand-flighting
[edit]
Also must have TPM2.0 and Secure Boot enabled.

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 11:23 AM

Installation went flawlessly and programs that were already installed, like MS Project 2019, work like a charm. Kinda impressed, actually.

GSGRUNT Jun 29, 2021 11:27 AM

A few hours in and I see no reason not to upgrade.

Lazy8s Jun 29, 2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munkus (Post 1338293177)
Maybe it's just the ARM64 version? I dunno.

Obligatory screenies.





I can't not see KDE lol.

You gents are tempting me, but I'm still going to wait it out a bit.

Munkus Jun 29, 2021 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s (Post 1338293189)
I can't not see KDE lol.

You gents are tempting me, but I'm still going to wait it out a bit.

Yeah it's definitely copying some Linux & MacOS look & feel. I can't say that I'm thrilled with the way many of the system setting pages look. It really does feel like a mobile UI. I'm sure it will continue to evolve as MS gets user feedback.

So far it's been pretty stable, though I did have Explorer crash on me and restart. Didn't lose any data, it just reloaded explorer.exe automatically. I wouldn't use this as my main and only OS right now. It's fun to play with though.

Nunz Jun 29, 2021 12:33 PM

I really like the center start menu. 38" Ultrawide means I have to make a lot of movement to get down to the corners.

Hapatingjaky Jun 29, 2021 01:32 PM

Installing on my notebook, do not expect good joojoo out of this since its an inplace upgrade :mad:

Would rather have a serparate ISO I could install to a USB drive and do a clean install.

acroig Jun 29, 2021 04:41 PM

https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-p...heck-app-gone/

Seyiji Jun 29, 2021 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338293239)

RIP 2021 - 2021 !___!

Nagorak Jun 30, 2021 05:18 PM

Personally I'm not a fan of the Start Menu UI change at all. It's easy to whip your mouse to the corner, even if your motion is not precise it will slide along the edge of the screen and go right to the button. Center of screen doesn't benefit from that advantage.

With that being said, I am sure I can modify the UI back to my WinXP-esque preference.

Silent-Runner Jul 1, 2021 10:56 AM

for the desperate ones:



https://youtu.be/fk5B-a7vZ_w

Munkus Jul 1, 2021 12:30 PM

My Parallels VM that has Win 11 doesn't have TPM or secure boot, yet Win 11 installed without a hitch.

xCLAVEx Jul 1, 2021 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-voodoo (Post 1338293079)
Cool....I just found out my 6700k is not supported by Win11 :(

Wat.

Sasquach Jul 1, 2021 03:50 PM

Im'a skip out...
But maybe....cuz i heard they'll provide free upgrade to 11...

cuz you know....

Win 98 > Win Me > Win XP
Win XP > Win Vista > Win 7
Win7 > Win 8 > win 8.1
Win8.1 > 9 (yes i know it doesnt exist) > Win10
win10 > win11 > win12?

See the pattern? (except the 8.1 > 9 > 10. The cycle doesnt break going straight from 8 to 10...8.1 is still 8...although the good version of 8)

Hapatingjaky Jul 2, 2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xCLAVEx (Post 1338293617)
Wat.

NO TPM on 6th gen Intel.

Trunks0 Jul 2, 2021 05:31 PM

The TPM doesn't have to be built into the CPU. It was usually built into the mobo's before Intel and AMD started integrating it. Which just means buying the TPM module and plugging it into the mobo's header for it.

Example of Gigbytes
https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/TPM-Card

These used to be SUPER cheap. But now the prices have gone absolutely bonkers because of Win11's requirement announcement.

x-voodoo Jul 2, 2021 06:45 PM

I just tried entering tpm.msc in the "run" prompt and it specified I have 2.0!!!!!

Does that mean I'll be able to run Win11 with my 6700k when it is released???

Trunks0 Jul 2, 2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-voodoo (Post 1338293816)
I just tried entering tpm.msc in the "run" prompt and it specified I have 2.0!!!!!

Does that mean I'll be able to run Win11 with my 6700k when it is released???

It means you won't have an issue with the TPM check. So your probably good to go :up:

p.s. People are already starting to write guides on how to bypass the TPM bit. So no worries for those of us without a TPM module or a CPU without it integrated.

x-voodoo Jul 2, 2021 07:09 PM

That would be really cool if that's true. Other than it being older than the 8th gen CPU it literally meets ALL other requirements on their list!

Please note - I did not add any TPM module to my MSI motherboard...

pax Jul 2, 2021 10:54 PM

Checking update regularly but they are still blocking me on cpu alone. Its the only thing keeping me from trying it out...

Trunks0 Jul 3, 2021 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-voodoo (Post 1338293820)
That would be really cool if that's true. Other than it being older than the 8th gen CPU it literally meets ALL other requirements on their list!

Please note - I did not add any TPM module to my MSI motherboard...

*shrug* no idea. Could have just worked in error. Software is still in testing after all.

Munkus Jul 3, 2021 08:46 AM

i wonder why Win11 installed on my VM (Parallels on a Macbook Pro M1) when the VM doesn't have TPM and the processor isn't identified as being Intel.

Hapatingjaky Jul 7, 2021 08:50 AM

I've been having annoying issues on my notebook as of late with Windows 11 after using for the last week.

Nothing serious though, just annoying.

1.) Windows Security Center has to be manually started on startup. Pisses me off, everytime I restart or turn my notebook on I get a notification that the protection is disbaled. And I have to manually enable it.

2.) Entering safemode if a chore. On Windows 10 you just shift click + restart and you are presented with an options screen. Windows 11 you shift click + restart, the PC resets and then goes to an option screen. Then it resests again once you choose your option.

3.) Entering safemode causes Explorer.EXE to crash. Was updating my GPU driver to the 471.22 Hotfix. Got in to safemode only to constantly get an Explorer.exe has crashed errors constantly over and over and over again. Took me a bit to get beyond that point but just left the erorr window open while I ran DDU.

4.) Right clicking to use Nvidia Control Panel or 7Zip does not appear in the tab window. Instead you need to go to MORE OPTIONS to get those options.

dodger Jul 12, 2021 06:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NivpAiuh-s0



Probably more than you ever want to know about installing Win11 on old machines, all the way back to Core2Duo machines.

Lots of reg edits

Edit: Linus implies that AMD/Intel has their part in the official requirements, something to do with driver supports.

pax Jul 19, 2021 09:18 PM

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/di...ign=socialflow

Quote:

A recent Microsoft blog post has corrected the company's earlier statement that DirectStorage, a tech that boosts storage performance to improve gaming, would only be available in Windows 11. Now Microsoft has clarified that DirectStorage will indeed support both Windows 10 and Windows 11.

DirectStorage is a new storage acceleration API, currently used in Xbox Series consoles, that improves game loading times by allowing game data to be transferred directly from an NVMe SSD to the GPU, thus bypassing the CPU.

To further speed up performance, DirectStorage also includes a new GPU decompression technology that supports higher decompression I/O rates and bandwidth than CPUs. That also makes the GPU a better option to decompress game assets.

The only caveat with Windows 10's implementation of DirectStorage will be its older storage stacks -- a set of drivers that allows applications and Windows to communicate with storage devices. This will lead to reduced system performance, compared to Windows 11, but is still better than having no DirectStorage technology at all.
Really thought they would force us into win11 for this.

andino Aug 2, 2021 12:17 PM

Anyone using this as a daily runner yet?

GSGRUNT Aug 3, 2021 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andino (Post 1338298560)
Anyone using this as a daily runner yet?

I have been using it as my main PC since post #1 of this thread. No Ragerts.

Munkus Aug 3, 2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSGRUNT (Post 1338298671)
I have been using it as my main PC since post #1 of this thread. No Ragerts.

I think she was going for No Rugrats. :bleh:

I use Win 11 Arm64 in Parellels on my MBP M1 for work. There are several programs required for work that don't have a MacOS version, so I use a VM. Namely Visio and MS Project. Absolutely no problems so far.

Lazy8s Aug 3, 2021 11:01 AM

I would probably have Ragerts about posting a pic of Caitlin Jenner (there’s stubble on the neck :cry: ) but…..

I might try this on my ancient gaming pc for a daily driver. You guys think there would be any security concerns? All things being equal (vpn, anti-virus and all) or should I wait? Any compelling reason to upgrade?

Munkus Aug 3, 2021 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s (Post 1338298699)
I would probably have Ragerts about posting a pic of Caitlin Jenner (there’s stubble on the neck :cry: ) but…..

I might try this on my ancient gaming pc for a daily driver. You guys think there would be any security concerns? All things being equal (vpn, anti-virus and all) or should I wait? Any compelling reason to upgrade?

Does your ancient gaming pc meet the requirements, such as TPM and secure boot? If so, go for it. The latest build is beta now, so it's probably stable enough for basic use.


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