Quotes for hard drive storage space are starting to get out of hand
 

So I'm in the market for a 1 tera hard drive. After some look see, I see that it's really only ~930 gigs of real estate to use. Now, I understand why there is a difference between what's on the box and what I actually get, but seriously, we need a new way of determining space. I mean that's 70 gigs chopped off right there! That's indeed alot of space I could be using :hmm:
What's next 2 tera's only affording me 1.75 tera's (missing 250 gigs!)???



/rant over.

Just how big, exactly, is your porn collection? :hmm: :D

Theres a 7% less actual space then is says on the box. Next time keep that number in mind ;)

The formula is 1-(1000^3) / (1024^3)

You're not losing anything.
You got 1,000,000,000,000 bytes did you not?

not as big as magicknights. ;)

Look at the General Hardware important info sticky, under 'Hard Drives'


EDIT - I thought you were good with numbers and stuff. and junk.

I agree with the orig poster, does this problem apply to Flash and SSD's?

i am to an extent, but that doesn't mean i'm happy with the way things are being advertised as we move up into higher capacities.

No.

You misunderstand the problem. The problem is all the stupid programs that keep clinging on to kilo-, mega-, giga-, tera-, etc byte as powers of 2. While in science these prefixes denote a power of 10.
A gigawatt is a gigawatt just like a gigabyte is a gigabyte. You are getting what is advertised, that is 10^12 bytes.

the prefixes arent different, its just a matter of bits vs bytes.

Lmao, you have no idea why its to the power of 2 huh? It's more of a hardware issue :bleh:

I vaguely recall reading that all hard drive manufactures are required to indicate the actual formatted capacity on the packaging.

Yeah, these stupid programs! Powers of 2?? I mean, you'd think that computers operated in binary or something. :nuts:

except for the fact that kilo means thousand, mega means million, giga means billion, and tera means trillion. computers aren't exempt. if i'm in the market for a 1TB hard drive, should i expect anything other than 1 trillion bytes?

kilo = 1000 in a base 10 system :bleh:

Enlighten me :)
Depends on what issue you're talking about exactly.
I'm on about consumers getting confused and thinking they somehow lost disk space.

Care to elaborate?

binary = bits

base 10 = bytes.

if bytes were base 2, then kilo would be 8 ;)

What the hell?

1 byte = 8 bits

Edit:
Must say, I like this thread :D

Are you a computer? I'm a lot more comfortable with powers of 10 compared to powers of 2.
I got a terabyte drive, I got 1,000,000,000,000 bytes, easy.
I got a terabyte drive, I got 1024*1024*1024*1024 bytes errrr ah yes 1099511627776 bytes. Now there's an easy number.

There is no added value in using powers of 2 to represent file size or disk sizes, so why use it?

because microsoft uses it ;)

we all know how standard microsoft is :)

NIST and IEEE 1541: powers of two = first 2 letters closest SI designation + bi.
kilo, Mega, Giga, Tera = 10^3, 10^6, 10^9, and 10^12
Kibi, Mebi, Gibi, Tebi= 2^10, 2^20, 2^30, and 2^40 respectively

1 terabtye=1x10^12 bytes
1 tebibyte=1x2^40 bytes

kilo, Mega, Giga, Tera, etc are SI prefices that unambiguously refer to powers of 10. Any other assumed definition are completely nonstandard, and used only in colloquial speech.

get it?

right, but power of 3 is for giga. for tera you should use power of 4. that would be 10%.

Meh, someone else has done the enlightening...

Consumers confused? So what? I don't see a lot of complaning about it tbh :bleh:

Obviously I do not. :hmm:

I do not bring up the kibi, mebi etc stuff because that only confuses people more. It isn't used by microsoft so try telling people it's that way when their computer tells them otherwise. First you have to establish that the computer is wrong, before you bring up the kibis and mebis :bleh:
We already have Ryoko on board, he brought up M$.

:lol: Did you read the OP? :p

Ah, indeed it is. I guess Razeus is lucky that the drive manufacturers didn't take that into consideration. He would have a 900GB drive right now if they did :lol:


It's a drop in the ocean :p

some of you guys didn't notice it, but seeker ended the thread a little while ago. ;)*

He's a finance guy, stick a dollar sign in front of the numbers and he'd be fine.