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Old Jan 28, 2021, 06:36 PM   #1
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 09:39 PM   #2
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Good ol Sony on full display on their latest Pro series Xperia.
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sony used to be superior, nowadays not so much anymore. They're not bad per se, but i really don't know anyone who still uses one.
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Waiting for the eventual Xperia One II 3
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I loved the Xperia phones I had, but they never built a good market share. I ultimately moved on to Samsung, then Apple, then Essential, now OnePlus. Really happy with OnePlus.
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Doesn't Xperia not even sell in the US anymore due to how poor their sales are?
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Doesn't Xperia not even sell in the US anymore due to how poor their sales are?
They have massively paired back. I know they did pull out of lots of places, Canada included, but they still maintain a presence in the US.



It's probably Sony's own doing. The marketing probably wasn't really on point and their phones just kinda fell into the wash of every other smartphone. Sad really, as the current crop seems perfectly awesome.
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They are perfectly awesome. Superior camera and features, hi-res audio, AI codec that upscales audio files...

Brownlee sound sold tens of thousands of Sony phones with that video.
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Yup and the problem is, most people... don't care. They want the phone everyone else has. Which is something Apple absolutely excels at, and something Sony has really stumbled over for their smartphone division.

But thats typical Sony. For as many things they knocked outta the park(Trinitron TV's, Playstation, Walkman etc) they have also failed (Betamax, MiniDisc, etc). Kinda how Sony has operated for what seems like forever. And all that kinda gives me a soft spot for them, as they will try to do crazy stuff that others won't(Xperia Pro, Aibo etc etc)
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was about to post vid from Brownlee, he absolutely nailed it. Also it's really sad to see them almost vanish from the smartphone market.
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I use a Sony phone and I like them quite a lot. But they don't even sell them here officially anymore.
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just to make it clear, i really used to love their stuff, also their phones, man, i had 2 of them (K800i and CMD CD5), actually i still have them and they're still working like a charm.

The problem with sony is, that they do make great phones but their marketing is a nightmare.
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A question about Sony: do they do a good job keeping the OS updated on their older phones?
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Never had a problem with updates. They are not frequent, but they support them well enough.
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Wen juckt's?
I'm not sure what they are doing worse than Samsung on, and I'm not sure to this day how they exploded and not Sony.
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Crazy Kraut Jibberish:

Die Kaufinteressenten? Null Werbung und eine Verfügbarkeit unter aller Sau helfen nicht gerade dabei Umsätze zu machen, dass sie obendrein noch Geräte eher für hardcore-Foto-Enthusiasten machen ebenso wenig. Gute, hochqualitative Hardware verkauft sich eben nicht von alleine, gerade Sony sollte das besser wissen als viele andere.


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The prospective buyers? Zero advertising and availability near to zero do not exactly help to make sales, on top of that they make devices for hardcore photo enthusiasts which also dosen't help. Good, high-quality hardware doesn't sell by itself, Sony in particular should know that better than many others.
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Die Kaufinteressenten? Null Werbung und eine Verfügbarkeit unter aller Sau helfen nicht gerade dabei Umsätze zu machen, dass sie obendrein noch Geräte eher für hardcore-Foto-Enthusiasten machen ebenso wenig. Gute, hochqualitative Hardware verkauft sich eben nicht von alleine, gerade Sony sollte das besser wissen als viele andere.
Doch hatte ich so einfach durch Saturn vorbeigeschaut und einem gekauft. Die sind für mich besser, da sie keine Bloatware dabei haben. Nicht nur, dass die technischen Daten spitz-klasse sind, aber die haben normalerweise besondere Eigenschaften, deren andere Handys auf keinen Fall haben.

Aber mit Werbung bin ich einverstanden. Traurigerweise ein großer Schwachpunkt von Sony.

I was able to simply walk in to Saturn (our bestbuy) and buy one. I like them because they have no bloat. The technical specs are not only good, but the normally have features that others dont have.

But I agree with the advertising. Sadly a weakspot for sony.
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English only guys. Mind editing and putting into english?
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Have to say the last two words of the title of the post made me pause for a moment, just saying but maybe I'm being too politically correct.
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i don't have to look anything up (and i'm more than old enough to know the meaning of the term "Herrenrasse", the "master race" was surely meant as in Pc-Master-Race. I guess you're interpreting a _bit_ too much into this. Just sayin'
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i don't have to look anything up (and i'm more than old enough to know the meaning of the term "Herrenrasse", the "master race" was surely meant as in Pc-Master-Race. I guess you're interpreting a _bit_ too much into this. Just sayin'
I would not waste any more effort on him tbh.
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Getting back to the phones ( ), I had one of the early Xperias years back and generally liked it a lot, except that I always found that the screen was not nearly bright enough for use outdoors on a sunny day. It was truly frustrating. When I eventually switched to a Note 8 (ridiculously bright!), that aspect felt like the biggest upgrade.

Looking at the brightness measurements I've seen online for the new 1ii and 5ii, it seems like the Xperias are still much dimmer than most other brands. I just can't see spending that much money on a phone and having the screen be too washed out when outdoors.

But if it weren't for that, my Sony nostalgia would really tempt me to consider the 5ii.
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A question about Sony: do they do a good job keeping the OS updated on their older phones?
Not really, they only do about 2 years of updates and even then the origin of the phone will determine if you get it. But they have gotten a bit better in recent times.
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I love Playstation and their Bravia TVs, but honestly, I wouldn't get an Xperia if you want constant updates. Sure the mobile division isn't bleeding money anymore, but all signs seem to point how they're going the same route as VAIO.
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Yea they are really only staying in it so they can keep on top of the tech and keep making stuff for that industry(like the camera sensors etc). Otherwise they massively pulled back. Which is fine, rather they did that then a swarm of crappy phones.
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