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![]() http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA== "Hybrid CrossFire is not meant for the enthusiast, but we do think the technology will indirectly benefit enthusiasts in the future, hence our reason for talking about it. That and Hybrid CrossFire is just pretty darn cool technology. Hybrid CrossFire is achieved by utilizing one of AMD’s new integrated chipset GPUs (IGP) and one of their new video cards. That’s right; Hybrid CrossFire utilizes one video card plugged into your PCI-Express slot and is able to join forces with the GPU built into the motherboard chipset."
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![]() While the graphics part of this is interesting, could this not directly compete with Ageia? I mean, one main GPU (your graphics card) and the lesser capable IGP acting physics unit. Crossfire can do this AFAIK. |
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![]() good find I like the possibility to completely power down the discreet vcard when not needed - powersaving and silence. In that light even monster-power-hungry cards seem acceptable because they use power only during gaming. |
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![]() Whats the point? Reading the back of my box, my 8800gt is 33x faster than Integrated graphics. How is that turtle going to help anything? Heck I cant even play Quake 3 on an integrated graphics card. Its like adding a leaf blower to a cars intake system and calling it a turbo. Sure you may get a nominal increase, but whats the point? |
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read their forum replies about it, there are some good ideas and Kyle explains things |
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I see its value, for the sub $500 market as they put it. Since Im not in that market, it is of no use to me or my $280 videocard. ![]() I didnt read the replies, just the article. It seems that the integrated chipset is as good as a $50 videocard. This is the part that concerns me as they have not had a good track record as of late with almost everything listed: Quote:
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![]() GPU physics is dead, because Intel owns Havok, which means no Havok FX. Even if there was Havok FX, all it would be able to do it effect (pretty much just limited to particles) physics, not gameplay-affecting physics. |
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![]() I think it's cool -- nothing wrong with added performance at all. Quote:
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Anyways, it's not really targeted towards enthusiast, although it would still make for a very nice set up for one anyway. From what I can gather, hybrid fire does not use AFR, it plainly off loads some pixel data. Kind of nifty actully and the ability to power off the discrete cards is another neat thing with this. It's not like you really have a choice to go hybrid fire or SLi. These technologies are closed to Intel platforms. ![]() The way I see it, if I was to get RS780(which I am), and RV670(which I am), I like to think of it as a extra 800+ points in my 3dmark score as well as reduced/free AA hit(2xAA/4xAA box) on varying games and said resolutions. I also like to think of it as browsing the web with only 10 watts of video power. To each his own. |
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![]() I personally would love to have an IGP handling my desktop, then when i play games the dedicated gpu kicks in, seems a much more efficant way, also the gpu's fan wouldn't be on all the time and you wouldn't have to worry about aero causing the temp's to rise to turn the fan on.. |
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![]() This is a very cool feature. Sure not for hardcore gaming but nice for OEMs ![]()
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To garner additional performance from a multi-GPU stand-point without AFR is very interesting to me.
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![]() Desktop really not interested, but put it in a laptop and I would be all over it.
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![]() This will be awesome for the HD2900 users. No power usage for the Big Daddy in 2D, and you get UVD acceleration as a bonus. I don't care for added performance, the power and heat savings are much enough. RS780 + Phenom "B3" Black Edition... it feels quite like an elegant solution. |
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![]() It sounds to me like they are trying to scrap what they can of the now lost Havok project and find a way to do similar by themselves. The original marketing materials on future Havok was that the secondary GPU could be used for a number of offload purposes- such as geometry, physics or whatnot. Scrapping the need to design a new "standard" physics platform/API, this leaves AMD with a number of options to test out for feasibility. But as AMD is still struggling with simple Crossfire support and time to market with games, this would be a pipe dream at best given their low resources for drivers/profiles.
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![]() it's funny how hybrid crossfire with a $50 video card was able to let them play crysis @ medium settings ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Havok going to Intel might not totally kill GPU physics. Hellgate for example, uses GPU to do some fluid simulations for smoke effects in DX10. Ageia could take the opertunety to create a GPU assisted addition to their PhysX API. I suspect Intel will hold HavokFX back until Larabee is out, should prolly lend itself very well to such applications, and they will have a chance to tailor the support in HavokFX for it aswell.
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Elsewhere, in-house engines like CE2 (Ubisoft's Dunia too?) still try some of the physics on shaders since they're partially merged with the particle system anyway. |
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![]() I appreciate the life lesson on Marketing (looks to left sees degree in Marketing hanging on the wall... *snickers*). Funny thing when I was writing this I specifically inserted "from the back of the box" as a point of reference that it wasnt my thoughts. ![]() There is a market for everything though, no doubt. I just wish they would shoot for #1. |
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