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Old Nov 27, 2021, 08:00 PM   #7801
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Well there's no point in even trying to do something like that here in the States. Thousands pour into our southern border daily. The banning of flights from Africa won't do squat.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 09:15 PM   #7802
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Well there's no point in even trying to do something like that here in the States. Thousands pour into our southern border daily. The banning of flights from Africa won't do squat.
You say that like it's only a problem that the US has. Other nations have that issue as well. Especially the European ones. If someone wants to go from one country to another bad enough there isn't much stopping them.
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You say that like it's only a problem that the US has. Other nations have that issue as well. Especially the European ones. If someone wants to go from one country to another bad enough there isn't much stopping them.
That's my point. Ban flights from there, they go to a country that isn't. I mean it might slow it down a bit, but it's coming here either way.
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That's my point. Ban flights from there, they go to a country that isn't. I mean it might slow it down a bit, but it's coming here either way.
Inevitably, perhaps, but it may be prudent to delay arrival somewhat so we can learn more about it beforehand. If it turns out to be even more infectious than Delta, that might cause a surge that overwhelms health care systems, so it seems reasonable to want to take some time to do more research and preparation rather than just open the floodgates and hope and pray for the best.
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Inevitably, perhaps, but it may be prudent to delay arrival somewhat so we can learn more about it beforehand. If it turns out to be even more infectious than Delta, that might cause a surge that overwhelms health care systems, so it seems reasonable to want to take some time to do more research and preparation rather than just open the floodgates and hope and pray for the best.
It's probably already here, but I agree any time we have might be helpful. Not like it will make any difference though. Folks that don't want the shot aren't going to get it, so what can they do other than lock downs? Nobody wants those so, we'll probably just roll with it. Also do the current vaccines even work against it. We'll know in a few weeks. Both mRNA companies said 100 days to a new version of their shots. Make that 3-5 months before it's available. Good times ahead if this is a nasty one.
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Well there's no point in even trying to do something like that here in the States. Thousands pour into our southern border daily. The banning of flights from Africa won't do squat.
So, all of those people from the banned flights are hoping to instead fly into Mexico, hit the trail with a coyote, risk life and limb and cross the border to circumvent it?

And, theoretically, we could end COVID in America if we vacuum sealed our borders? The only reason we have cases is because of others coming over the southern border?
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Milder than delta but more contagious so it displaces it might help at this point.
Im gonna have to do a double take on that. While a more contagious and milder covid 19 might seem a way to spread immunity more safely than previous versions of the pathogen it also increases the reservoir. The danger is not something that kills us all its something that kills or disables enough of us to bring society to its knees.

Omicron for now followed by the next letter of the greek alphabet where an equally more contagious than delta but this time more infectious gets the upper hand.

So the vaccine remains the best way to go about this.
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“Young people, in their 20s to just over their late 30s, are coming in with moderate to severe disease, some needing intensive care. About 65% are not vaccinated and most of the rest are only half-vaccinated,” said Mathivha. “I’m worried that as the numbers go up, the public health care facilities will become overwhelmed.
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**** guess that was a too early guesstimate... I wonder if the recent numbers are a mix of delta and omicron tho.
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So, all of those people from the banned flights are hoping to instead fly into Mexico, hit the trail with a coyote, risk life and limb and cross the border to circumvent it?

And, theoretically, we could end COVID in America if we vacuum sealed our borders? The only reason we have cases is because of others coming over the southern border?
Right as they don't fly to Canada.
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**** guess that was a too early guesstimate... I wonder if the recent numbers are a mix of delta and omicron tho.
My guess is Delta. It's possible that homicron is already here though. I'm trying not to get overly hopeful of those mild system reports I've read.
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Right as they don't fly to Canada.
its most likely easier to risk crossing the mexican border with a coyote than trying to walk(or dingy) across the canadian border in the winter.
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Im gonna have to do a double take on that. While a more contagious and milder covid 19 might seem a way to spread immunity more safely than previous versions of the pathogen it also increases the reservoir. The danger is not something that kills us all its something that kills or disables enough of us to bring society to its knees.

Omicron for now followed by the next letter of the greek alphabet where an equally more contagious than delta but this time more infectious gets the upper hand.

So the vaccine remains the best way to go about this.
The trajectory is expected. The virus will almost certainly mutate to be more virulent, as that's an advantage for it, while also growing less deadly, as killing your host is a disadvantage.
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The trajectory is expected. The virus will almost certainly mutate to be more virulent, as that's an advantage for it, while also growing less deadly, as killing your host is a disadvantage.
Or making one too sick as they would isolate while ignoring it if it was a mild flu. But a pathogen that burns itself out by being too deadly is still possible and that burn out can take enough of us out to matter.

I see that possibility due to the size of the reservoir. If it was a small localized reservoir like ebola it might not be that scary.
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Or making one too sick as they would isolate while ignoring it if it was a mild flu. But a pathogen that burns itself out by being too deadly is still possible and that burn out can take enough of us out to matter.

I see that possibility due to the size of the reservoir. If it was a small localized reservoir like ebola it might not be that scary.
Well on a small time horizon, any kind of outcome is possible. On a timeline of decades or centuries though, it's practically guaranteed that Covid will remain super transmissible, but settle into nearly zero lethality. That's basically what happened with the flu... there's still new flu variants every year, but we don't worry about high fatality variants popping up. We'll reach equilibrium eventually.
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Omicron laughs at your boost!
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 11:29 AM   #7822
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Ive been boosted with moderna, started with Phizer, going for JJ next!
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 11:32 AM   #7823
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Omicron laughs at your boost!
Omi is going to get really confused and die!
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 12:05 PM   #7824
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Omi is going to get really confused and die!
Don't I wish!
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 06:59 PM   #7825
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...-restrictions/


Japan to bar all new foreign visitors as omicron fears grow


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The government announced Monday that it will ban all incoming foreign travelers for one month effective Tuesday in an effort to prevent the omicron variant from spreading domestically.

New restrictions will encompass all new entries — including foreign exchange students, interns and those traveling for business — from every country in the world.

The entry ban will not affect Japanese nationals or foreign residents returning to the country, Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said, but those returning from designated countries where the variant has been reported will need to isolate at a government-designated facility for three to 10 days.

“This is a preventative, emergency measure to avoid a worst-case scenario,” Kishida told reporters Monday afternoon.

“Research is needed to determine how contagious the omicron variant is globally, and whether vaccines are still effective in preventing transmission or severe symptoms,” he said. “It’s crucial that we respond to the situation quickly and flexibly.”
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 08:51 PM   #7826
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Let’s hope the research tells us what it isn’t in a couple of weeks.
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 09:02 PM   #7827
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Both kids got their first dose last saturday... kinda glad seeing that omicron variant rearing its head.

One school I work at closed for 2 weeks. Good thing I didn't go there last week
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Old Nov 30, 2021, 08:34 AM   #7828
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Let’s hope the research tells us what it isn’t in a couple of weeks.
Im just gonna jump onto Facebook and do that research myself!
I'll let you know in a few hours!
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Im just gonna jump onto Facebook and do that research myself!
I'll let you know in a few hours!
save your time and just throw a bunch of dices, the result will be even better than any "research" you could achieve on facebook
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