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Old Jun 11, 2004, 02:37 AM   #1
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how is it supposed to be spelt? ass is really a male donkey, so i guess it should be arse, but i'm not sure if it has another meaning
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 02:48 AM   #2
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ass = informal
arse = formal

...is what u think
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 07:43 AM   #3
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Ummm, are you a dumb"ass" or a dumb"arse"? "Arse" is a more phonetic spelling of the way "ass" is pronounced with a different dialect. In other words, "Arse" and "Ass" are the same word, but pronounced differently. Does that answer your question?
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 07:55 AM   #4
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Arse - UK or Australian spelling,
Ass- US spelling - same thing.

See other post on different variations in English language, -then again maybe not.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 08:13 AM   #5
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Its Arse you ass! Unless... you are now speaking american english.....
...or some kind of strange WA dialect


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Old Jun 11, 2004, 08:39 AM   #6
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u cant say ASS in the thread title ;P can u?

ass is the correct spelling cuz when you call someone an ass you're calling them a jackass (donkey)

Arse is what the little kiddies say to eachother via aol so their parents dont read it n get mad.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 09:13 AM   #7
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Arse = for homosexuals. Ass = straight people. Oh and I'm a female.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 09:17 AM   #8
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Arse = for homosexuals. Ass = straight people. Oh and I'm a female.
A female arse ?
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 09:17 AM   #9
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 10:12 AM   #10
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 10:15 AM   #11
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I like to pronounce it like "ice"...it makes it teh funnay!
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 04:40 PM   #12
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Arse and Ass are two different words... they can be used interchangably, however Ass is generally looked down upon more.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 04:43 PM   #13
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u cant say ASS in the thread title ;P can u?

ass is the correct spelling cuz when you call someone an ass you're calling them a jackass (donkey)

Arse is what the little kiddies say to eachother via aol so their parents dont read it n get mad.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 05:22 PM   #14
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In looking for the origin of the word ass, I have learned that the second definition, that of a slang/grotesque origin, derives from the Old English word ars, meaning "ears". Also from the Indo-European word *ors. I wanted to know how a word meaning "ears" came to become a word for "buttocks" in the modern English language. I also wondered how and why it became a derogatory statement.

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Well, for this one we do have to go way back to Indo-European roots. You are correct that the IE root is *ors, "hindquarters, buttocks". Old English took it as aers, and we first find it in the written record in about 1,000 AD. It also turns up in early versions as ears, which might explain how you came to think the word meant "ears" originally. It didn't. It has always referred to the hindquarters, originally the hindquarters of animals, in fact.

There are cognates in the Teutonic languages, as one might suspect for a word referring to a body part - those are usually quite old. It is ars in Old High German, Old Norse, Old Danish and Old Swedish, ers in Old Frisian (Frisian being the Germanic language closest to English), and German arsch. The Old Teutonic root form has been hypothesized as ars-oz, which is the source, also, of the Greek word for "tail", ouros.

The Old English ears "arse" turns up in the name of a bird called the wheatear. Not only does it have no external ears but it has nothing to do with wheat, either. In earlier days, the bird was known as a wheatears (i.e. "white-arse") on account of its conspicuous white rump. Even more surprisingly, the word squirrel comes from the same Indo-European source. The first element in squirrel refers to "shade", a possible allusion to their preference for living in trees but more probably referring to the second element in the word, "tail", with the etymological meaning of "shade tail".

Why is ass considered derogatory? A moment's reflection on the condition of most human hindquarters before the advent of modern hygiene and the answer becomes readily apparent. In fact, many Old English words for parts of the body that we normally conceal came to be considered vulgar during the prim and proper Victorian Era, and ass became an unspeakable word. This so much so that we even stopped referring to donkeys as asses, too (donkey is a diminutive of Duncan, a common name given to asses).

More importantly, how did we get ass from arse? British English speakers still spell it arse, but as they are non-rhotic (not pronouncing r's between a consonant and a vowel) it comes out as "ahss". That approximate pronunciation was kept in the U.S. but the spelling was changed to match it.
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Ass sounds better though. Arse has a certian pooy feel to it
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 05:29 PM   #16
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Blame it on the Germans:

Arsch - ass in german
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Anyway, what was that about cutting back on forum spam
i have been cutting back on my spamming, you ass's arse
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