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Old Dec 8, 2010, 05:24 PM   #91
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Old Dec 8, 2010, 05:45 PM   #92
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Thanks for this review. Techreport is lagging in their review of the same thing. It was nice to see rage3d scooping them with this review.

This cpu looks really good even though it gets beat by the i7 in some areas, it's still a very strong contender. Makes me optimistic for AMD's next generation hardware due next year.
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The ONLY market segment I could in good concience reccomend the X6 series to is those who simply want a six-core CPU but only have ~$200 to spend. For that it is a perfect fit, but for those expecting raw power I am still going with the i7/i5/i3.
I do 3d rendering (actually not too much lately) here the X6 looks rather good. Now the other stuff does seems weaker then Intel. With Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge around the corner I just have a hard time wanting to upgrade my Q6600. My biggest beaf is I have only one 16x PCIx slot .
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I do 3d rendering (actually not too much lately) here the X6 looks rather good. Now the other stuff does seems weaker then Intel. With Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge around the corner I just have a hard time wanting to upgrade my Q6600. My biggest beaf is I have only one 16x PCIx slot .
So is it faster than a i7 920 or 930 then?
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So is it faster than a i7 920 or 930 then?
If you read the reviews, the 1100T trades punches with the i7 950. And that's a key point - Intel consolidated their i7 Bloomfield with the i7 950, eliminating the i7 930 which was the 1090T's target. The introduction of the 1100T brings on the bit more HP needed to combat Intel's i7 950.

Is it faster? Again, it trades punches. Depending on your primary uses, you may find that its faster or slower, perhaps significantly so depending on the app/game. Its certainly not a Bloomfield killer, but it is a very good processor that hits the price/performance equation quite well. Those looking for more bang/buck should look to the 1090T, or even the 1055T. However, with Sandy Bridge just around the corner - certainly is tempting to wait.
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Power consumption would have been niice. Looking @ another review, the 1100T runs at about [email protected]
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Power consumption would have been niice. Looking @ another review, the 1100T runs at about [email protected]
Yes, I had planned to do power numbers but ran out of time with the unexpected arrival of the GTX 570 for me to review as well, plus I had some consistency issues; sorry, I just ran out of time. Hopefully I'll get to come back and do the benchmarks in the near future to add in.

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Yes, I had planned to do power numbers but ran out of time with the unexpected arrival of the GTX 570 for me to review as well, plus I had some consistency issues; sorry, I just ran out of time. Hopefully I'll get to come back and do the benchmarks in the near future to add in.
Oooooh! Thats gonna be nice!
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Look at this review that compares a 3.8ghz 920 to a 3.8ghz 1090T. I'll have to take back a few of the disappointments about AMD. It looks pretty good in this review.

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r..._1090T_15.html
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Look at this review that compares a 3.8ghz 920 to a 3.8ghz 1090T. I'll have to take back a few of the disappointments about AMD. It looks pretty good in this review.

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r..._1090T_15.html
Not bad at all from AMD. This is really the time for me to upgrade my CPU/MB/Memory etc.
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I didn't get a chance to run @ 3.8 GHz with a higher HT / NB bus speed, but one would expect several percent increase in performance by doing so.
This quote from the OCing section somewhat tones down those results though as the equally clocked AMD only won the categories it did win by a few points... meaning a well OC'ed 920 would likely have picked up a few more wins. But even with the i7 920 slightly faster across the board AMD is in better position than I thought before.
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This quote from the OCing section somewhat tones down those results though as the equally clocked AMD only won the categories it did win by a few points... meaning a well OC'ed 920 would likely have picked up a few more wins. But even with the i7 920 slightly faster across the board AMD is in better position than I thought before.
I think you are reading that wrong, seems to me they are attributing a slight favoring in the test as is towards Intel because of the entire sub system being overclocked vs just the CPU alone with the AMD, hence AMD would of performed a slight bit better if overclocked in a similar fashion.
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