Microsoft Acquiring Activision/Blizzard - Page 2

Sasquach · Jan 18, 2022, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theshadowcult

Just so you guys dont get to carried away with who they will buy next. I have no doubt they only were able to buy activation because of the **** happening in the company at the moment. This is a perfect opportunity to bail out, and a 70b severance package is just too hard to pass up.

I dont think they could buy squarenix, or nintendo or any of that stuff. Not because of the money though.

Square is an interesting prospect...theres been rumors that they might be for sale but its hard to tell....
They dont seem to be doing bad but i dont think they're doing great. The userbase might get tired of their constant foot shooting decision making though.

Nintendo.....no dice at least not anytime soon...not with the continued success of the Nintendo Switch and they have been branching out into other entertainment ventures (Lego collabs, upcoming movies, super nintendo
land, mobile, etc). They've been able to right the ship and then some after the Wii-U almost led them off the cliff.
And as Trunks said earlier, there was a story where MS approached Nintendo to buy them out some 20 odd years ago. I think whoever told the story (Dont remember if it was Phil Spenser who told the story) just simply said they were laughed out of the room. If Nintendo was in more dire straits than when they were at that time they MIGHT have more seriously entertained a buyout offer.
They've been buddy buddy with MS for the last few years so if anyone were to buy out Nintendo at any point in time, I think they'd be ok if it were Microsoft.

SubCog · Jan 18, 2022, 06:09 PM

I've been expecting the Sega announcement for quite awhile now.

**Trunks0** · Jan 18, 2022, 06:12 PM

Um I think the reason the Sega thing will never happen is Sega's ties to organized crime in Japan. Something I'm almost certain MS, or anyone else really, wants absolutely nothing to do with. It's why they never get bought out.

xCLAVEx · Jan 18, 2022, 06:29 PM

Probably bad news. When has an M$ acquisition ever been good for the consumer?

**Trunks0** · Jan 18, 2022, 06:44 PM

Maybe. Although given the absolutely **** storm happening at Activision/Blizzard and the complete mis-use of there developers talents to just drive COD on the Activision side... I can't see it being worse.

DeathKnight · Jan 18, 2022, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xCLAVEx

Probably bad news. When has an M$ acquisition ever been good for the consumer?

The Bethesda/Zenimax acquisition. They were looking for a buyer and Microsoft was the best for them and the gaming community overall. Anyone else with pockets that deep would have been a disaster.

Also, these game publisher/developer acquisitions fall under the auspices of the gaming division, led by people who know what the hell they're doing and do have the consumer's interests in mind. This isn't the Microsoft of old either. Even the CEO of the entire corporation (Nadella) is all in on gaming.

**nutcrackr** · Jan 19, 2022, 03:29 AM

I personally prefer MS has charge of Diablo/Call of Duty than Activision. Might also see some older franchises make a return, like Prototype and Soldier of Fortune.

SubCog · Jan 19, 2022, 09:10 AM

As long as Spencer is in charge, I'm sure this will all be fine. After he eventually retires, anything could happen.

Sasquach · Jan 19, 2022, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SubCog

As long as Spencer is in charge, I'm sure this will all be fine. After he eventually retires, anything could happen.

Bring Steve Balmer back and let him take charge

Silent-Runner · Jan 19, 2022, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasquach

Bring Steve Balmer back and let him take charge

i don't think he needs more money, his aprox. 122 billion should be more than enough for the rest of his life.

xCLAVEx · Jan 19, 2022, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathKnight

The Bethesda/Zenimax acquisition. They were looking for a buyer and Microsoft was the best for them and the gaming community overall. Anyone else with pockets that deep would have been a disaster.

Also, these game publisher/developer acquisitions fall under the auspices of the gaming division, led by people who know what the hell they're doing and do have the consumer's interests in mind. This isn't the Microsoft of old either. Even the CEO of the entire corporation (Nadella) is all in on gaming.

I'm still dubious at best. M$ has been "all in for gaming" before and they dropped the ball completely.

SubCog · Jan 19, 2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xCLAVEx

I'm still dubious at best. M$ has been "all in for gaming" before and they dropped the ball completely.

Don Mattrick. Especially under Steve Ballmer. They wanted to milk xbox for profitability, and simply lacked a love or understanding of the medium.

bill dennison · Jan 19, 2022, 12:08 PM

so we are going to have to pay or have game pass for Diablo 3 seasons now

and Diablo 4 seasons when and if it gets there

i don't think MS will put all the work into a 10 year old game that Blizzard did for free

**nutcrackr** · Jan 19, 2022, 04:48 PM

Be curious to see how quickly they rejig these games for game pass. Aren't they doing a new client for windows to get rid of the dumb UWP? Should make the process easier. I wonder what this means for battle.net though.

**Trunks0** · Jan 19, 2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nutcrackr

Be curious to see how quickly they rejig these games for game pass. Aren't they doing a new client for windows to get rid of the dumb UWP? Should make the process easier. I wonder what this means for battle.net though.

It could be they will ingrate Battle.net features or it could be like SubCog said.

**Gandalfthewhite** · Jan 25, 2022, 12:51 PM

https://companiesmarketcap.com/video...by-market-cap/

I think people overestimate the value of some game companies. Just because MS hasn't done hostile takeovers does not mean they cannot.

The bigger question isn't who will MS buy next it is who Sony will buy next. Given the current Square Enix relationship and the pedigree behind them as well as both being Japanese companies it is a DISTINCT possibility

**SirBaron** · Jan 25, 2022, 01:14 PM

Sony doesn't need to, they keep throwing money at forever exclusives.

Sundance Kid V2 · Jan 26, 2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBaron

Sony doesn't need to, they keep throwing money at forever exclusives.

**nutcrackr** · Jan 26, 2022, 05:44 PM

Sony probably do need to buy a studio or two. I think Square Enix would be a good candidate with their franchises.

**Gandalfthewhite** · Jan 26, 2022, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBaron

Sony doesn't need to, they keep throwing money at forever exclusives.

except they just lost some big exclusives they had for the younger market with the lose of activision. Right now their 3rd party exclusive partner is what square enix? and only for CERTAIN games and even then can be very hit or miss on what they deliver.

(I am massive FF fan and even I can admit they have had some misses)

I could very easily see Sony buying square enix to be the defacto home for JRPGs and bonus get tomb raider and deus ex franchises.

Sundance Kid V2 · Jan 27, 2022, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xCLAVEx

I'm still dubious at best. M$ has been "all in for gaming" before and they dropped the ball completely.

But they learned their lesson. Look at MS as a whole the last decade. Open source embrace etc... they are different anima todayl. Learned hard lessons.. and LEARNED from it.

MS kicking ass is welcomed!

**Trunks0** · Jan 27, 2022, 01:47 AM

Also helps that the current CEO doesn't give a sheit where potential customers are, he just wants to reach em. Like the exact opposite to Apples walled garden approach.

Sundance Kid V2 · Jan 27, 2022, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Trunks0

Also helps that the current CEO doesn't give a sheit where potential customers are, he just wants to reach em. Like the exact opposite to Apples walled garden approach.

Exactly.

MS is very customer centric.

DeathKnight · Jan 27, 2022, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nutcrackr

I think Square Enix would be a good candidate with their franchises.

They'd have to even be interested in being acquired first and foremost.

Secondly, Sony already has a really cush relationship with them. They don't have to acquire them to keep that going and still get exclusives.

Dungeoncrawler · Jan 27, 2022, 10:50 AM

It's clear M$ is attempting to take over a large portion of the gaming market. That will never be a pro-consumer move. For one thing, its terrible for privacy rights regarding M$ ability to gather and sell more peoples biometric data.

Edit: Maybe they should talk with CD PROJEKT RED?

Sundance Kid V2 · Jan 27, 2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dungeoncrawler

It's clear M$ is attempting to take over a large portion of the gaming market. That will never be a pro-consumer move. For one thing, its terrible for privacy rights regarding M$ ability to gather and sell more peoples biometric data.

Edit: Maybe they should talk with CD PROJEKT RED?

huh?

I think your mobile phone (Apple/Google) + FB will have WAY more data on you then MS will ever have.

Mangler · Jan 27, 2022, 02:39 PM

Apple/Google + FB doesn't have an S that can be replaced with $, so M$ is clearly more evil.

Sundance Kid V2 · Jan 27, 2022, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangler

Apple/Google + FB doesn't have an S that can be replaced with $, so M$ is clearly more evil.

fact!!

theshadowcult · Jan 27, 2022, 04:25 PM

i mean, cant argue with that!

twonha · Jan 27, 2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangler

Apple/Google + FB doesn't have an S that can be replaced with $, so M$ is clearly more evil.

M€ta?

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Jan 18, 2022, 06:12 PM	#33
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Jan 19, 2022, 03:29 AM	#37
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Jan 19, 2022, 12:08 PM	#43
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Jan 19, 2022, 04:48 PM	#44
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nutcrackr OT Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 16,703	Sony probably do need to buy a studio or two. I think Square Enix would be a good candidate with their franchises.

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Dungeoncrawler Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,740	It's clear M$ is attempting to take over a large portion of the gaming market. That will never be a pro-consumer move. For one thing, its terrible for privacy rights regarding M$ ability to gather and sell more peoples biometric data. Edit: Maybe they should talk with CD PROJEKT RED? Last edited by Dungeoncrawler : Jan 27, 2022 at 11:07 AM.

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Jan 27, 2022, 02:39 PM	#57
Mangler PC Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,480	Apple/Google + FB doesn't have an S that can be replaced with $, so M$ is clearly more evil.

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