So the X700XT will be available with 256...

Let_Me_Live · Sep 26, 2004, 10:21 AM

What do you guys think the price difference will be? ABit has thier X700XT pci-e cards up, as well as gecube, but ABit's site makes me curious, as the XT is only listed as a 256mb card. How much do you guys think this card would be, and would the 256mb of ram be worth it over buying a faster card with less memory *cough*6800NU*cough*

EDIT-
Woopths, forgot the link http://www.abit-usa.com/products/gra...es=2&model=223

hazindu · Sep 26, 2004, 03:17 PM

its still a little too soon to separate rumor and truth, however I'd venture to guess that there will be 256mb x700xts, and they'll prolly cost an additional $20 - $50. Of course, like I said this is pure speculation.

DnL · Sep 26, 2004, 04:13 PM

Yeah anyone can make 256 MB versions of those cards, its possible, if you want to pay more.

carz2 · Sep 26, 2004, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DnL

Thats a typo......

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/gra...es=2&model=223

read under

Features

Graphic Processor
- ATI® Radeon X700 XT Visual Processing Unit

Memory
- 128bits 256MB GDDR3 Memory

Yeah anyone can make 256 MB versions of those cards, its possible, if you want to pay more.

What typo? 128bit bus with 256MB of memory is what it is.

Fobinator · Sep 26, 2004, 07:30 PM

I hope the HSF on that is better then the one that was on ATIs referance design.

Let_Me_Live · Sep 26, 2004, 10:42 PM

Umm, what typo? And yes, I totally agree that the X700 needs a better HSF.

EDIT-
Also, I do realize that if there is space, any manufcaturer can slap on more RAM. However, 128mb of GDDR3 is pretty damn expensive, making you wonder if its feasible for the company.

caveman-jim · Sep 27, 2004, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DnL

Thats a typo......

Memory
- 128bits 256MB GDDR3 Memory

Only 128bit

Spiritwalker · Sep 27, 2004, 09:47 AM

So far the plans are only for a 128MB version of the x700XT but there will be a 256MB version of the x700Pro using less expenisive RAM that will cost you the same as the XT

Let_Me_Live · Sep 27, 2004, 11:28 AM

GOOD
FREIKIN
CALL

I ALREADY KNOW THAT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?? Anyways, now that I *hopefully* got the message across, I was posting this info for anybody interested. Like, who the hell doesnt know the X700 is 128bit?? Honestly people....

EDIT-
AND WHAT FREIKIN typo?!

Phat Lex · Sep 27, 2004, 01:51 PM

According to Tech Report, the X700XT 256MB version's suggested price is $250, which is $50 more than the X700XT 128MB version.

Fobinator · Sep 27, 2004, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat Lex

According to Tech Report, the X700XT 256MB version's suggested price is $250, which is $50 more than the X700XT 128MB version.

The real question now is whether its worth the extra 50 bucks

edplayer · Sep 27, 2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live

However, 128mb of GDDR3 is pretty damn expensive, making you wonder if its feasible for the company.

I think most busineses try to sell their products for a profit. Why would they make/offer this product if they knew they were gonna lose money on it?

How much does the 128MB of DDR3 cost?

edplayer · Sep 27, 2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live

EDIT-
AND WHAT FREIKIN typo?!

did you notice that he edited his post?

Let_Me_Live · Sep 27, 2004, 05:19 PM

Yes, I finally noticed, but I rarely read posts that Ive already read. Also, Edplayer, not feasible price wise, but feasible, "why confuse more consumers", especially considering performance in "most" games wont be affected. Of course, for Doom 3 and HL2, as well as Far Cry, it would be beneficial. The biggest thing I want to know, is what would be more cost effective: A X700XT w/256mb or a 6800NU. Considering $50US is about $75cdn cheaper, I would gladly pay $345 for a X700XT with 256 as long as it was COMPARABLE. ATI is a great company IMO, so leaving them would be a last resort.

Phat Lex · Sep 27, 2004, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fobinator

The real question now is whether its worth the extra 50 bucks

IMO, its definitely worth it. With modern games such as Doom3, the video memory requirements are getting higher and higher, so if anything, now is a good time to buy 256MB video cards, especially if its only a $50 difference

Fobinator · Sep 27, 2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live

Yes, I finally noticed, but I rarely read posts that Ive already read. Also, Edplayer, not feasible price wise, but feasible, "why confuse more consumers", especially considering performance in "most" games wont be affected. Of course, for Doom 3 and HL2, as well as Far Cry, it would be beneficial. The biggest thing I want to know, is what would be more cost effective: A X700XT w/256mb or a 6800NU. Considering $50US is about $75cdn cheaper, I would gladly pay $345 for a X700XT with 256 as long as it was COMPARABLE. ATI is a great company IMO, so leaving them would be a last resort.

If ATI doesn't mess around with canadian prices the MSRP for the x700xt is suppose to be $325 tops. I don't know about computer stores in Alberta but here in ontario if it is 325msrp we should have no trouble finding it for a nice $300 can

Let_Me_Live · Sep 27, 2004, 09:01 PM

Yes, but this is based on getting a 6800NU for $415. Thats as cheap as they are unless they are on sale here (thats actually from ncix.com). A computer store in Alberta??

You gotta be kidding me. The one place thats ok is Compusoft in Red Deer, so its local. Memory Express in Calgary is ok for sales, but they are swamped all day long (anytime Ive stopped by, at least 4 people in each line). Edmonton has nothin. However, our local futureshop has X800pro's in stock, LeadTEK6800 NU's, and lots of 9800pros (they price match any online company in canada and plus and additional 10% calculated on the savings). Anyways, considering that the 6800NU is about $35 more expensive then straight converting US to CDN dollars, I factored that in. I cant complain though, as I only have to pay 7% tax. If you look at it like that

Alberta: $349.99 x 1.07= $370.02
Ontario: $325.99 x 1.15= $374.88

EDIT-
And yes, ATI messes around with their card prices big time in Canada. Ever gone to their own online stores? They havent even lowered the prices of the 9800pros here!!

Fobinator · Sep 28, 2004, 06:55 AM

damn that pst, i hate those salles tax.

painkiller · Sep 28, 2004, 07:55 AM

Memory
- 128bits 256MB GDDR3 Memory

This is kinda stupid. Wouldn't it be cheaper to make 256 bit card with 128 MB rather than making 128 bit card with 256 MB

mulciber · Sep 28, 2004, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painkiller

Memory
- 128bits 256MB GDDR3 Memory

This is kinda stupid. Wouldn't it be cheaper to make 256 bit card with 128 MB rather than making 128 bit card with 256 MB

probably not
most people will be buying the 128mb version anyways

PatrickL · Sep 28, 2004, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painkiller

Memory
- 128bits 256MB GDDR3 Memory

This is kinda stupid. Wouldn't it be cheaper to make 256 bit card with 128 MB rather than making 128 bit card with 256 MB

Short answer: NO.

drzaius · Sep 28, 2004, 10:19 AM

more then just the board needs to be changed for it all to work with 256-bit memory. VPU, board, memory all need to be.

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Let_Me_Live Radeon R600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 638	So the X700XT will be available with 256... What do you guys think the price difference will be? ABit has thier X700XT pci-e cards up, as well as gecube, but ABit's site makes me curious, as the XT is only listed as a 256mb card. How much do you guys think this card would be, and would the 256mb of ram be worth it over buying a faster card with less memory cough6800NUcough EDIT- Woopths, forgot the link http://www.abit-usa.com/products/gra...es=2&model=223 __________________ PIV 2.5 (oc 2.8) Ram: 512 pc3200 Mobo: GA-8S650GXM GPU: Gigabyte radeon 9200se 128ddr 3DMark03: 940 (sad) 3DMark01: 6100 (pathetic) Quote: Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live flexes e-penis... wait a minute... oh I dont have one Sometimes I have the most horrible dreams. Or maybe they are real. Do dead men dream? Last edited by Let_Me_Live : Sep 26, 2004 at 11:45 AM.

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Sep 26, 2004, 10:42 PM	#6
Let_Me_Live Radeon R600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 638	Umm, what typo? And yes, I totally agree that the X700 needs a better HSF. EDIT- Also, I do realize that if there is space, any manufcaturer can slap on more RAM. However, 128mb of GDDR3 is pretty damn expensive, making you wonder if its feasible for the company. __________________ PIV 2.5 (oc 2.8) Ram: 512 pc3200 Mobo: GA-8S650GXM GPU: Gigabyte radeon 9200se 128ddr 3DMark03: 940 (sad) 3DMark01: 6100 (pathetic) Quote: Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live flexes e-penis... wait a minute... oh I dont have one Sometimes I have the most horrible dreams. Or maybe they are real. Do dead men dream?

Sep 26, 2004, 03:17 PM	#2
hazindu I put the zin in Hadu!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Smartassville Posts: 2,687	its still a little too soon to separate rumor and truth, however I'd venture to guess that there will be 256mb x700xts, and they'll prolly cost an additional $20 - $50. Of course, like I said this is pure speculation.

Sep 26, 2004, 07:30 PM	#5
Fobinator Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,306	I hope the HSF on that is better then the one that was on ATIs referance design.

Sep 27, 2004, 09:47 AM	#8
Spiritwalker If you could see me now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lake Chaparral Posts: 924	So far the plans are only for a 128MB version of the x700XT but there will be a 256MB version of the x700Pro using less expenisive RAM that will cost you the same as the XT __________________ Just cut the tihs and give me the facts ;)

Sep 27, 2004, 11:28 AM	#9
Let_Me_Live Radeon R600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 638	GOOD FREIKIN CALL I ALREADY KNOW THAT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?? Anyways, now that I hopefully got the message across, I was posting this info for anybody interested. Like, who the hell doesnt know the X700 is 128bit?? Honestly people.... EDIT- AND WHAT FREIKIN typo?! __________________ PIV 2.5 (oc 2.8) Ram: 512 pc3200 Mobo: GA-8S650GXM GPU: Gigabyte radeon 9200se 128ddr 3DMark03: 940 (sad) 3DMark01: 6100 (pathetic) Quote: Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live flexes e-penis... wait a minute... oh I dont have one Sometimes I have the most horrible dreams. Or maybe they are real. Do dead men dream?

Sep 27, 2004, 01:51 PM	#10
Phat Lex Dante Must Die Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 1,050	According to Tech Report, the X700XT 256MB version's suggested price is $250, which is $50 more than the X700XT 128MB version. __________________ "In the Soviet army it takes more courage to retreat than advance." Joseph Stalin.

Sep 27, 2004, 05:19 PM	#14
Let_Me_Live Radeon R600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 638	Yes, I finally noticed, but I rarely read posts that Ive already read. Also, Edplayer, not feasible price wise, but feasible, "why confuse more consumers", especially considering performance in "most" games wont be affected. Of course, for Doom 3 and HL2, as well as Far Cry, it would be beneficial. The biggest thing I want to know, is what would be more cost effective: A X700XT w/256mb or a 6800NU. Considering $50US is about $75cdn cheaper, I would gladly pay $345 for a X700XT with 256 as long as it was COMPARABLE. ATI is a great company IMO, so leaving them would be a last resort. __________________ PIV 2.5 (oc 2.8) Ram: 512 pc3200 Mobo: GA-8S650GXM GPU: Gigabyte radeon 9200se 128ddr 3DMark03: 940 (sad) 3DMark01: 6100 (pathetic) Quote: Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live flexes e-penis... wait a minute... oh I dont have one Sometimes I have the most horrible dreams. Or maybe they are real. Do dead men dream?

Sep 27, 2004, 09:01 PM	#17
Let_Me_Live Radeon R600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 638	Yes, but this is based on getting a 6800NU for $415. Thats as cheap as they are unless they are on sale here (thats actually from ncix.com). A computer store in Alberta?? You gotta be kidding me. The one place thats ok is Compusoft in Red Deer, so its local. Memory Express in Calgary is ok for sales, but they are swamped all day long (anytime Ive stopped by, at least 4 people in each line). Edmonton has nothin. However, our local futureshop has X800pro's in stock, LeadTEK6800 NU's, and lots of 9800pros (they price match any online company in canada and plus and additional 10% calculated on the savings). Anyways, considering that the 6800NU is about $35 more expensive then straight converting US to CDN dollars, I factored that in. I cant complain though, as I only have to pay 7% tax. If you look at it like that Alberta: $349.99 x 1.07= $370.02 Ontario: $325.99 x 1.15= $374.88 EDIT- And yes, ATI messes around with their card prices big time in Canada. Ever gone to their own online stores? They havent even lowered the prices of the 9800pros here!! __________________ PIV 2.5 (oc 2.8) Ram: 512 pc3200 Mobo: GA-8S650GXM GPU: Gigabyte radeon 9200se 128ddr 3DMark03: 940 (sad) 3DMark01: 6100 (pathetic) Quote: Originally Posted by Let_Me_Live flexes e-penis... wait a minute... oh I dont have one Sometimes I have the most horrible dreams. Or maybe they are real. Do dead men dream?

Sep 28, 2004, 06:55 AM	#18
Fobinator Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,306	damn that pst, i hate those salles tax.

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