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Old Jan 6, 2022, 07:03 PM   #19441
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I always liked the first one more. I'm curious if you're old enough to have seen both at theaters when first released.
I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 09:35 PM   #19442
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I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
I wondered if one's preference might depend on when you saw them. Alien was so groundbreaking to me that Aliens didn't quite match up. Plus putting children in jeopardy is often viewed as a lazy plot device. However, in Aliens it set up the battle of the moms ending. Plus mech. Plus Paxton.

OK, I changed my mind.

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Old Jan 6, 2022, 10:31 PM   #19443
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I always liked the first one more. I'm curious if you're old enough to have seen both at theaters when first released.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 10:48 PM   #19444
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I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
Here's how I see the franchise:
  • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
  • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
  • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
  • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

  • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
  • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

  • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 11:17 PM   #19445
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Here's how I see the franchise:
  • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
  • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
  • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
  • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

  • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
  • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

  • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 11:55 PM   #19446
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Ya thats a good look at alienverse. But I have come to like Alien 3 over time. David Fincher is good even when they wont let him (studio).
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I wondered if one's preference might depend on when you saw them. Alien was so groundbreaking to me that Aliens didn't quite match up. Plus putting children in jeopardy is often viewed as a lazy plot device. However, in Aliens it set up the battle of the moms ending. Plus mech. Plus Paxton.

OK, I changed my mind.

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Here's how I see the franchise:
  • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
  • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
  • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
  • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

  • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
  • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

  • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
I'm a big fan of the series and I for the most part agree with your reviews.

I think I hold the first movie in a bit higher regard than you though. Could very possibly have nostalgic reasons for that however, and/or maybe it was just a more powerful film back then for the time and hasn't aged quite as well for newcomers. It was my favorite movie for a long time when I was a kid in the 80's. I certainly do not agree with your view of the final act of the movie being flawed. Always found it to be super intense and total edge of your seat excitement. **Spoilers for anyone that somehow hasn't seen this yet** I think it was also one of the first movies I ever saw where the monster came back after thinking it was dead. Was a total shocker to me back then and I still remember it being super scary.

Anyways for me I still struggle deciding which in the series I like the most, the first or second movie. Pretty much resigned to the fact they are ultimately different style films that can't really be compared equally. First one is more of a slow burn sci-fi horror/thriller, while the second is more a faster sci-fi action/thriller.
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The story he read in class "Once there were three bears..."
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The story he read in class "Once there were three bears..."
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I didn't like it. 5/10
It’s definitely not going to entertain everyone, but the characterizations of so many of the personality types we see today was hilarious imo.
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Old Jan 9, 2022, 09:35 AM   #19463
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It’s definitely not going to entertain everyone, but the characterizations of so many of the personality types we see today was hilarious imo.
Yeah I think it hit too close to our new normal for comfort.
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Old Jan 9, 2022, 10:36 AM   #19465
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To me Don’t look up was nothing but a babble fest.
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Old Jan 9, 2022, 10:41 AM   #19466
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Yeah I think it hit too close to our new normal for comfort.
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To me Don’t look up was nothing but a babble fest.
Very much so. I think it was a very much intended part of the atmosphere of the movie.
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Old Jan 9, 2022, 11:56 AM   #19467
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Don't look up is basically idiocracy except it is uncomfortable close to how things really are right now.
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Yeah hence why I didn't enjoy it, sad to see what we've become.
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Yeah hence why I didn't enjoy it, sad to see what we've become.
I didn’t like it because I think it just sucked.
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