I think I'm done with JRPGs

Hidavi · May 26, 2009, 06:41 PM

I used to be a huge fan, but lately I haven't enjoyed them as much. I loved The Last Remnant, but the excessive grinding, followed by the lame ending, really turned me off. Then there was the oh-so-tedious Star Ocean. And I tried to go through Breath of Fire IV, but all the run-around is annoying. And then there was Blue Dragon, that went from so easy it was boring to the impossible final boss that just left me like

I think I'm going to stick to shooters, racers, adventure games, fighting games, and American RPGs...

shai-tan · May 26, 2009, 08:40 PM

I haven't liked many of this generations J-RPG games. There's many more for the PS2 than there are for the current generation so it wasn't too hard for me to find a few I like.

pahncrd · May 26, 2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hidavi

I used to be a huge fan, but lately I haven't enjoyed them as much. I loved The Last Remnant, but the excessive grinding, followed by the lame ending, really turned me off. Then there was the oh-so-tedious Star Ocean. And I tried to go through Breath of Fire IV, but all the run-around is annoying. And then there was Blue Dragon, that went from so easy it was boring to the impossible final boss that just left me like

I think I'm going to stick to shooters, racers, adventure games, fighting games, and American RPGs...

Welcome to the club.

I hate JRPGs in general, mostly due to the archetypes and tropes prevalent in them, though I did enjoy Lost Odyssey quite a bit, and I am looking forward to finally playing Last Remnant.

sMashPiranha · May 26, 2009, 10:27 PM

I don't like them as much as I used to when I actually had time to sit around for hours grinding.

Hidavi · May 26, 2009, 10:44 PM

The biggest problem I've encountered lately is that in order to beat the final boss, you have you grind sooooo much that it makes every other enemy butt-easy. And grinding is not fun.

Serotonin · May 27, 2009, 12:18 AM

I haven't played a good jrpg since FF7.

I tried all of them since, except 11 and 12.

Square pretty much sucks these days, star ocean isn't half the series it was on psone, tales of destiny disappeared...

So yeah...I agree...jrpgs..actually about for the last 10 years have been crap.

Give me the days of Sega Saturn...Grandia, Dragon Force, Panzer Dragoon Saga...

CHIPS · May 27, 2009, 03:11 AM

I started many JRPGs but haven't finished that many of them. Most of the stories start off good but gets boring in the middle somewhere. There are also too much grinding involved. I prefer the Guild Wars style much more.

**SirBaron** · May 27, 2009, 04:57 AM

Yeah I'm the same these days, though Lost Odyssey is by far the best JRPG since the old days.

pahncrd · May 27, 2009, 07:57 AM

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Yeah I'm the same these days, though Lost Odyssey is by far the best JRPG since the old days.

It is just so underrated in the shadow of FF13, and it is the only JRPG that I have actually enjoyed in years.

Encyclopedia_b · May 27, 2009, 09:34 AM

i have an excersize bike that sits infront of my ps2. this is my genre of choice when i ride the bike.

i dont love them ... but they are the best genre for this as far as ive found.

pahncrd · May 27, 2009, 09:46 AM

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i have an excersize bike that sits infront of my ps2. this is my genre of choice when i ride the bike.

i dont love them ... but they are the best genre for this as far as ive found.

JRPGs would probably be great for that sort of thing, as would RTS, and Civilization type games (Civ Revolution on Xbox).

Miikkrusoff · May 27, 2009, 09:50 AM

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i have an excersize bike that sits infront of my ps2. this is my genre of choice when i ride the bike.

i dont love them ... but they are the best genre for this as far as ive found.

That sounds awesome.

Hidavi · May 27, 2009, 12:53 PM

Yeah Lost Odyssey is sooooo underrated. The most original JRPG in years.

pahncrd · May 27, 2009, 12:59 PM

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Yeah Lost Odyssey is sooooo underrated. The most original JRPG in years.

It makes sense since it is the actual true heir to the Final Fantasy franchise. The FF series has gotten progressively more shallow and less interesting, but Lost Odyssey was great and it is a shame that it will never get the recognition it deserves since it doesn't have Final Fantasy in the title.

hazindu · May 27, 2009, 02:45 PM

Maybe my tastes are changing, or maybe JRPGs are changing, or maybe both, but I'm for the most part not enjoying modern JRPGs nearly as much as I did some time ago. I loved the SNES and PSX Final Fantasies, and many other games of that type, but I don't care for the modern Tales games, Blue Dragon, or any other recently released RPG I've tried. I did enjoy Eternal Sonata and to an extent Lost Oddysey, but I doubt I'll ever have a desire to play either again.

pahncrd · May 27, 2009, 03:24 PM

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Maybe my tastes are changing, or maybe JRPGs are changing, or maybe both, but I'm for the most part not enjoying modern JRPGs nearly as much as I did some time ago. I loved the SNES and PSX Final Fantasies, and many other games of that type, but I don't care for the modern Tales games, Blue Dragon, or any other recently released RPG I've tried. I did enjoy Eternal Sonata and to an extent Lost Oddysey, but I doubt I'll ever have a desire to play either again.

I think as we age a bit, our priorities change along with what we find interesting or important. These games are usually just a bunch of OC teenagers posturing and looking ultra stylish.

Standard jrpg characters...

I am much more interested in grittier games that either have a protagonist that I define myself, or a realistic and cynical one such as in Gothic. I am able to relate much better with those sorts of games, without being annoyed by the overly "cool" characters that dominate JRPGs, Anime and Manga.

Ogrillion · May 27, 2009, 04:29 PM

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I think as we age a bit, our priorities change along with what we find interesting or important. These games are usually just a bunch of OC teenagers posturing and looking ultra stylish.
I am much more interested in grittier games that either have a protagonist that I define myself, or a realistic and cynical one such as in Gothic. I am able to relate much better with those sorts of games, without being annoyed by the overly "cool" characters that dominate JRPGs, Anime and Manga.

I agree 110%.. I mean I don't need a super manly character either but damn I dislike the only thing that separates some of these female / male characters are boobs.. =/

I havn't tried lost odyssy I will have to give it a shot then.. I remember it looking pretty cool, and then I got distracted with the other 100 games that came out around the same time.

I am playing right now tales of vesperia and I don't know i am enjoying that game. I find its one of the better ones that I played lately, the last jrpg I played was blue dragon, and I don't know I found I was so bored of the game by the end I just didn't care.. Just beat it, just to say I did didn't enjoy it at all lol

pahncrd · May 27, 2009, 04:42 PM

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I havn't tried lost odyssy I will have to give it a shot then.. I remember it looking pretty cool, and then I got distracted with the other 100 games that came out around the same time.

I think I liked Lost Odyssey because the characters weren't douchy, and so I could connect with them and care about what happened to them... plus the story was actually pretty damned good. The first ten hours or so is slow because of how they have to portray the main character, but what they did was entirely required in the context of the story. From the second half of the second disc, it goes from good to amazing imho.

CHIPS · May 28, 2009, 01:15 PM

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It makes sense since it is the actual true heir to the Final Fantasy franchise. The FF series has gotten progressively more shallow and less interesting, but Lost Odyssey was great and it is a shame that it will never get the recognition it deserves since it doesn't have Final Fantasy in the title.

Another problem is it is not on the PS3.

Hidavi · May 28, 2009, 01:19 PM

Problem for you guys

pahncrd · May 28, 2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIPS

Another problem is it is not on the PS3.

I think they should port it to PC and PS3, as hopefully more would get a chance to play it.

Ogrillion · May 28, 2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pahncrd

I think they should port it to PC and PS3, as hopefully more would get a chance to play it.

Eerrr that is anti-fanboy talk how dare you want a good game to be experienced by all who can!!!

pahncrd · May 28, 2009, 05:27 PM

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Eerrr that is anti-fanboy talk how dare you want a good game to be experienced by all who can!!!

I'm sorry...

zebra 204 · May 28, 2009, 05:33 PM

Blue Dragon was easy. All depends on what skills you learn and how you use them. The final boss did a maximum of about 27 points of damage and I felt bad for the guy and a I killed him in just a few turns. The king poo on the other hand was hard.

Hidavi · May 28, 2009, 05:35 PM

I thought the King Poo was cake. Hmm. Lemme see if I work up the desperation to grind up another 5 levels in Blue Dragon so I can actually beat him. I'm still not at peace with that game.

zebra 204 · May 28, 2009, 05:49 PM

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I thought the King Poo was cake. Hmm. Lemme see if I work up the desperation to grind up another 5 levels in Blue Dragon so I can actually beat him. I'm still not at peace with that game.

Maybe. I fought him with everyone at about level 70-72. But I grinded gold/platinum poos for 2 hours for SP with the Force Field II one day to earn all the skills and then tested them in different orders to see what made me the most unstoppable. I doubt someone with a life would want to do that.

Edit: King Poo was cake?! But he is a kazillion times harder than the actual boss fights and so are the magical dragons you can kill to earn the dragon bracelet. Your backwards mate!

Hidavi · May 28, 2009, 06:00 PM

Nope. I killed King Poo on my second try, no grinding in between. Maybe its just a matter of how you specialize your characters.

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Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	I think I'm done with JRPGs I used to be a huge fan, but lately I haven't enjoyed them as much. I loved The Last Remnant, but the excessive grinding, followed by the lame ending, really turned me off. Then there was the oh-so-tedious Star Ocean. And I tried to go through Breath of Fire IV, but all the run-around is annoying. And then there was Blue Dragon, that went from so easy it was boring to the impossible final boss that just left me like I think I'm going to stick to shooters, racers, adventure games, fighting games, and American RPGs... __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

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May 26, 2009, 08:40 PM	#2
shai-tan Radeon R520 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 433	I haven't liked many of this generations J-RPG games. There's many more for the PS2 than there are for the current generation so it wasn't too hard for me to find a few I like.

May 26, 2009, 10:27 PM	#4
sMashPiranha Radeon Volcanic Islands Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,607	I don't like them as much as I used to when I actually had time to sit around for hours grinding.

May 26, 2009, 10:44 PM	#5
Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	The biggest problem I've encountered lately is that in order to beat the final boss, you have you grind sooooo much that it makes every other enemy butt-easy. And grinding is not fun. __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

May 27, 2009, 12:18 AM	#6
Serotonin Lacking details Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,185	I haven't played a good jrpg since FF7. I tried all of them since, except 11 and 12. Square pretty much sucks these days, star ocean isn't half the series it was on psone, tales of destiny disappeared... So yeah...I agree...jrpgs..actually about for the last 10 years have been crap. Give me the days of Sega Saturn...Grandia, Dragon Force, Panzer Dragoon Saga... __________________ *Main PC:* AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0GHZ l 16GB Corsair DDR3 RAM l nVidia GTX 1070 8GB / AMD 290X 4GB l 256GB SSD HD + 1TB 7200rpm *Laptop:* Intel 4720HQ @ 2.6GHZ l 8GB RAM l nVidia 860M 2GB l 1TB HD 7200rpm l 1080p *Consoles:* Playstation 4 500GB l Xbox One 500GB l Wii U 32GB l Vita w/ 16GB Card

May 27, 2009, 03:11 AM	#7
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May 27, 2009, 04:57 AM	#8
SirBaron Hallowed are the Clownies Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Niedersachsen Posts: 25,885	Yeah I'm the same these days, though Lost Odyssey is by far the best JRPG since the old days. __________________ Fantards the scourge of the universe:

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Encyclopedia_b Purveyor of OFN Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Capitol of the free world : Wash DC Posts: 11,581	i have an excersize bike that sits infront of my ps2. this is my genre of choice when i ride the bike. i dont love them ... but they are the best genre for this as far as ive found.

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May 27, 2009, 12:53 PM	#13
Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	Yeah Lost Odyssey is sooooo underrated. The most original JRPG in years. __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

May 27, 2009, 02:45 PM	#15
hazindu I put the zin in Hadu!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Smartassville Posts: 2,687	Maybe my tastes are changing, or maybe JRPGs are changing, or maybe both, but I'm for the most part not enjoying modern JRPGs nearly as much as I did some time ago. I loved the SNES and PSX Final Fantasies, and many other games of that type, but I don't care for the modern Tales games, Blue Dragon, or any other recently released RPG I've tried. I did enjoy Eternal Sonata and to an extent Lost Oddysey, but I doubt I'll ever have a desire to play either again. __________________ "In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea." - Douglas Adams

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May 28, 2009, 01:19 PM	#20
Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	Problem for you guys __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

May 28, 2009, 05:33 PM	#24
zebra 204 Rage3D Manches Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 5,997	Blue Dragon was easy. All depends on what skills you learn and how you use them. The final boss did a maximum of about 27 points of damage and I felt bad for the guy and a I killed him in just a few turns. The king poo on the other hand was hard. __________________ Currently Playing: Everything To Play List: Everything else

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May 28, 2009, 05:35 PM	#25
Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	I thought the King Poo was cake. Hmm. Lemme see if I work up the desperation to grind up another 5 levels in Blue Dragon so I can actually beat him. I'm still not at peace with that game. __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

May 28, 2009, 06:00 PM	#27
Hidavi I'm Way Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: THE BIG APPLE Posts: 26,568	Nope. I killed King Poo on my second try, no grinding in between. Maybe its just a matter of how you specialize your characters. __________________ *Now Playing:* Joe Dever's: Lone Wolf (NS) Final Fantasy World (PS4P)

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