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Old Mar 9, 2021, 09:29 PM   #61
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I see no gain from going to PCI5 anytime in the next 5 years or more, we are still not saturating PCI3. Definitely not something I would worry about having for a long time. We are probably just going to get into PCI4 gaining something in the next GPU cycle. Rebar depending on the game could be upto maybe 10fps and according to what I have heard Nvidia is only adding the games that use it in the driver that make decent gains while using it, unlike AMD's approach.
It's true that it won't provide any improvement over PCIE 4.0 for a very long time but there is no point paying for PCIE 4.0 if PCIE 5.0 is available. PCIE 4.0 serves as a stand between for people who are buying platforms now and won't want to upgrade when the 4080 comes out which is fine but pointless for someone like me. PCIE 5.0 will be available before PCIE 4.0 provides any real benefit. Since I plan to upgrade platforms when the 4000 series is launched as mine will be nearing 5 years old at that point, it will be the perfect time to upgrade and skip 4.0 altogether. This could change if there is a delay of platforms but as of now thats what it looks like. I'll buy whatever PCIE is standard when the 4000 series is released and not worry about it. You won't see me argue that PCIE 5.0 is a reason to buy a new platform over a PCIE 4.0 platform regarding performance though. I'd simply buy it if it is the standard at the time of my next upgrade. No point hyping features that won't benefit during the platforms life.

Also it's worth pointing out that resizable bar is up to 10% with Forza Horizon being an exception with 8FPS gains. General performance gains across most games are about 3 FPS like I said they were. Thats when resizable bar is actually doing anything good. It's average performance across all games would be negligible.

As for the 3090, it's a poor value if you are buying it just for gaming. I think that's been established by now. Like Intel's Extreme Edition chips or Nvidia's previous Titans they aren't for people who are pinching pennies. That being said, the extra 11 FPS are very welcome in Cyberpunk 2077 for those of us that do own them.

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You guys are making me want to upgrade my z77 / 3770k second system.
Maybe acroig has some old parts lying around...
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Yes he does....and he will be happy to send them to you for free. As a matter of fact, he is happy to pay you to take them off his hands.

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You guys are making me want to upgrade my z77 / 3770k second system.
Maybe acroig has some old parts lying around...
I could have an 8086K with nothing to do soon........
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Yes he does....and he will be happy to send them to you for free. As a matter of fact, he is happy to pay you to take them off his hands.

Nice work there acroig. Who would have thought such kindness existed on Rage3D.

Wow..... on the spot now.....
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Is that how Pauly sent you the Hybrid kit no charge?
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Let's see what 11th gen Intel brings.....
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I went from 8086K @ 4.9 to a 5900x @ 4.7 (avg all core clocked balls to the wall) and saw 2-5 FPS; not 2-5% or 5-10% in games.

I would honestly be surprised if a 10700K is any different even at 5.2 GHz.
I play a number of CPU bound PC titles and saw those gains easily.
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10900KF is $329 at Microcenter. That's an incredible deal.
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So a very kind Rager is hooking me up with an open box MSI Tomahawk for $150. If it passes his tests I'm all in and throw that 10900KF from MC as I can get it with a 5% discount.

Question is can my PSU and cooling run it without issues?
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It'll be fine. Like I said, just don't expect to hit a crazy all-core OC. My 10900K only draws about 170-180watts while gaming .. it's really not that much. During Realbench I believe it hits 230-240? That's at 1.285v under load with the IMC screaming for mercy.
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Thanks nunz, appreciate the input.
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Got the 10900KF @ MC, $317
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That is dope. Same price as 5600X lol.
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That is dope. Same price as 5600X lol.
Too much bang for the buck, could not resist.
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So a very kind Rager is hooking me up with an open box MSI Tomahawk for $150. If it passes his tests I'm all in and throw that 10900KF from MC as I can get it with a 5% discount.

Question is can my PSU and cooling run it without issues?
Id get the new coolermaster aio/peltier cooler



https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog...l360-sub-zero/

Be cool to see comparisons of your cpu on this as cpus are probably all gonna be factory oced from now on into 200w+

Id recommend the ice giant, it can certainly take the load, but it seems designed for chiplet cpus. Maybe their second gen will have a copper base and be a more general high wattage cooler.
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Get the EK AIO or the Arctic one. Wouldn't touch any other. That peltier **** is a gimmick and draws a lot of power.

The H100 will be fine as long as you aren't trying to push the voltage up
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OMG I just saw the price... 350$...

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=Cooler...ML360+SUB-ZERO

Ya forget about the CM. Arctic is king of the hill right now for standard aio's..
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Get the EK AIO or the Arctic one. Wouldn't touch any other. That peltier **** is a gimmick and draws a lot of power.

The H100 will be fine as long as you aren't trying to push the voltage up
Not touching voltage at all.
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Not touching voltage at all.
Honestly man, the chip runs pretty great at stock. If you want to really get into it, you can use TVB which is per-core OCing. Some people do 5.5Ghz with 4 cores, 5.3-5.4 with 6-8 cores, and then 5.1 with 10 cores. It's pretty legit, and some people have had really good results using it.
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That sounds awesome. Mobo passed all tests so will get and look forward to playing around with 10 cores.
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That peltier **** is a gimmick and draws a lot of power.
I'd also be worried about condensation, not sure how they got around that.
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