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Old Apr 8, 2021, 07:37 AM   #361
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Old Apr 8, 2021, 08:32 AM   #363
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But the guy at work buying my 10700k wants to buy mobo aswell, so I picked up a z590 Maximus XIII Hero and HX1000. ASUS seem to be the best with BIOS updates. Gigabyte still have 3 week old firmware for z490.
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Old Apr 8, 2021, 10:21 AM   #365
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Old Apr 8, 2021, 10:47 AM   #367
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But the guy at work buying my 10700k wants to buy mobo aswell, so I picked up a z590 Maximus XIII Hero and HX1000. ASUS seem to be the best with BIOS updates. Gigabyte still have 3 week old firmware for z490.
I'd say MSI is best. Apparently ASUS are the only board maker that hasn't released a ReBAR BIOS for Z390. The HERO is grossly overpriced on Z590. It's a $299-349 board that they somehow jacked up to $499 now. Insanity.
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12c?? Hard to believe the indium solder on the intel is that poor. Its almost as bad as when intel switched to a paste way back when.

Im thinking derbauer got a bad sample and got a huge temp uplift due to that. Lets see some more delids before its deemed worth the trouble. But then if his sample was bad solder it would show up in testing other 11900k's... if not they or that batch rather, are all badly made.

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ASUS are using microcode for RKL 2 to 3 iterations ahead of any other vendor ATM. Shamino has been very active with the community in this regard. This is why I went with ASUS in this particular case, RKL needs a lot of attention being a new architecture.

In addition, I refuse to buy MSI out of principle.

As for the board, I got it for $100 off and PSU $39 off. It's still on sale. The board itself is great, power delivery and features are solid and most importantly for RKL, I feel software support will be the best with ASUS.

I've been avoiding ASUS but in this case it made the most sense
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The 11900K is a toasty one. It's also a great gaming CPU. Running mine with a mild all core overclock of 4.9GHz and 5.4GHz two core on an Aorus Z590 Master (Turbo +1).

The things I like about it over my previous 10900K on Z490 is of course the IPC gains for PC gaming and the inclusion of PCI-E 4.0 with the extra lanes.

I have an RTX 3090, 1TB Rocket 4.0 M.2 SSD, and two 8TB Rocket Q M.2 SSDs in RAID-0, so the entire platform is a benefit to me.

The other thing is the Gear 2 memory ratio which is rarely tested in reviews. This can allow much greater memory speeds. I'm using 32GB Crucial Ballistix Max RGB DDR4 4400 (4 x 8GB) and it runs just fine with the XMP profile. There are kits coming out for Rocket Lake in the 5000+ range.
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Have you tried tighter timings at 3733 G1, vs XMP 4400 G2? Just curious about performance.

Also, how do the gen3 NVMe drives in raid compare to single gen4? Was thinking about doing the same with 980pro gen4 plus a couple 980's in gen3 raid.
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That's a really awesome design, but monoblocks typically perform quite poorly.. not something I'd run. That's a lot of goodies packed with the board though, so the price makes sense.

The LED/OLED screen or whatever it is on the monoblock is really, really nice though. That's tasteful RGB.
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Have you tried tighter timings at 3733 G1, vs XMP 4400 G2? Just curious about performance.

Also, how do the gen3 NVMe drives in raid compare to single gen4? Was thinking about doing the same with 980pro gen4 plus a couple 980's in gen3 raid.

3733 won't even post with 4 DIMMs installed. Tried 3600 with CAS 14 1:1. It was overall slower compared to 4400 CAS 19 1:2.

I'm using my two 8TB NVMe drives in RAID-0 more for capacity than speed. Speed is of course also important or else I wouldn't have spent so much money on these high capacity drives. SSD brand marketing likes to advertise high sustained transfer rates which mean little for every day use. Especially when it comes to gaming. Despite that, I've seen an increase in sustained reads from 3800MB/s on Z490 to 6800MB/s on Z590. IO (which is far more important) went up about 10 to 15 percent.
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Got this turd up and running. Aside from the price I'm fairly pleased with it. Got an SP94 chip, which is pretty good.

Haven't OC'd cores or messed around with memory yet beyond enabling MCE and XMP. At these 'default' settings it runs at 5.3 2core/5.1 all core with 3600 CL14 memory. Doesn't seem to like 3700.. Will try for 4266+ another time. Nice to have the 980 Pro running at gen4 speeds, it's very quick. Temps are great, much better than expected.
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Got this turd up and running. Aside from the price I'm fairly pleased with it. Got an SP94 chip, which is pretty good.

Haven't OC'd cores or messed around with memory yet beyond enabling MCE and XMP. At these 'default' settings it runs at 5.3 2core/5.1 all core with 3600 CL14 memory. Doesn't seem to like 3700.. Will try for 4266+ another time. Nice to have the 980 Pro running at gen4 speeds, it's very quick. Temps are great, much better than expected.
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Can you do a CPUz bench of the CPU and report single/multi scores plz?
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Funny you should ask, I was doing just that when I read your message.

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3733 won't even post with 4 DIMMs installed. Tried 3600 with CAS 14 1:1. It was overall slower compared to 4400 CAS 19 1:2.

I'm using my two 8TB NVMe drives in RAID-0 more for capacity than speed. Speed is of course also important or else I wouldn't have spent so much money on these high capacity drives. SSD brand marketing likes to advertise high sustained transfer rates which mean little for every day use. Especially when it comes to gaming. Despite that, I've seen an increase in sustained reads from 3800MB/s on Z490 to 6800MB/s on Z590. IO (which is far more important) went up about 10 to 15 percent.
The best I can do with a kit of 4 stick B-die is 4266 CL15. I don't care what the reviews with power limits say, this thing is a beast unlocked. FS2020, Hell let loose, Total war, ARMA - IE PC games. This thing is powering through them far better than expected.

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713 ST is tight. Max I hit on my 5900X was 680. However, have seen gays pushing 700+ on 5900X.

That was stock, give me a bit of time to tweak it with good DJR memory.
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Another thing is, which I suspect is due to gen4 NVMe, is that I have no hitching or stutters in large/open world games that I did before. HLL for example is as smooth as BF1.
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I've never had that issue in HLL. Weird
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Fair enough. Before I was getting streaming hitches in a few titles, but now they're gone.

TBH the 1% lows on this chip are great, noticeably improved over before, even if avg/max don't look too much better. I'm surprised GN didn't touch on this. Most games in their review, and other reviews, show better 1% lows which is what you want out of CPU bound performance.
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Oh that was CPUZ. I confused it with CBR20. Then I think my scores are about 700+ ST and 10,000 MT or something.
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Oh that was CPUZ. I confused it with CBR20. Then I think my scores are about 700+ ST and 10,000 MT or something.
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I did hit over 700 and 10000 but I don’t remember the memory timings I used to get to that. Also I forgot the CO settings also when I reverted back to normal PBO with -10 CO.
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