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Old Feb 12, 2013, 11:26 AM   #1
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This should be interesting...... Love for some first hand feedback
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 04:40 PM   #2
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Basically just a sandboxed Android emulator running within the Windows environment. It's hard to navigate on my Win8 laptop and doesn't integrate with Modern UI or anything. App selection is also pretty limited from what I can see, don't know what the big deal is.
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Good news for me, been awaiting this for while.

Even if it doesn't catch on it will increase my user base depending upon the app/game released with minimal effort on my part.

Unfortunately I'm almost exclusivly developing apps that mostly rely upon internal sensors etc but I have had my eye on this for a year or so.

Also, who knows where the hardware is headed...
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I think its pretty cool. I have mention this before but windows 8 has brought new life to my HP Tm2t and having this just makes it even more fun to own. I was able to install stuff from Google play store and so far apps run great. Very impressed. Synced with my existing google play account from my Android days too. Been playing Angry Birds space with really good perf.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 06:37 PM   #5
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Basically just a sandboxed Android emulator running within the Windows environment. It's hard to navigate on my Win8 laptop and doesn't integrate with Modern UI or anything. App selection is also pretty limited from what I can see, don't know what the big deal is.
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I think its pretty cool. I have mention this before but windows 8 has brought new life to my HP Tm2t and having this just makes it even more fun to own. I was able to install stuff from Google play store and so far apps run great. Very impressed. Synced with my existing google play account from my Android days too. Been playing Angry Birds space with really good perf.

Apparently he got stuff out of the Google Play store? They advertise all Android apps can run on it.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 08:15 PM   #6
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Hmm my bad, it looks like it was having connection issues. Nothing was popping up when it was doing the app store search but now it is. Gonna check out Bard's Tale in a bit
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tried this a few months back when AMD advertised it and it wouldn't run half my app purchases so I uninstalled.
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Fixed storage size really cripples usability. Can't even download Bard's Tale HD texture pack because it's too big. 4GB is what it comes with and no option to change it.

Edit: and Bard's Tale doesn't seem to run at all.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 11:15 PM   #9
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Fixed storage size really cripples usability. Can't even download Bard's Tale HD texture pack because it's too big. 4GB is what it comes with and no option to change it.

Edit: and Bard's Tale doesn't seem to run at all.
Interesting, is this 4gig overall for bluestacks app storage?
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Seems like it. There was a hack to change it at xda but I can't be bothered to try it out. I don't think it'll help anyhow since the game I'm trying to launch just force quits.
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installing it right now on my acer w700

i just turned my WIn 8 tablet into a android tablet. so not bad at all

this apps has so much potential, however, so many apps are not working at all. altho i must say touch screen tablet works perfectly on it
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I just installed this in Win7. There are some really useful apps that I wanted to use in Windows, and they work great in Bluestacks.
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Excellent... now just release a version for RT
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How is this different from the official android emulator that google makes?

Anyways this is good for android but might hurt W8. Basically you write your app for android and then you don't need to worry about W8. For this exact reason, Google wrote a framework to make it easy for android developers to port their apps to iOS.
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How is this different from the official android emulator that google makes?

Anyways this is good for android but might hurt W8. Basically you write your app for android and then you don't need to worry about W8. For this exact reason, Google wrote a framework to make it easy for android developers to port their apps to iOS.
I don't see this hurting Windows 8. One it doesn't flow well with metro. All apps run on the desktop. Also, not as fast as native Windows 8 HTML5 apps.
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How is this different from the official android emulator that google makes?

Anyways this is good for android but might hurt W8. Basically you write your app for android and then you don't need to worry about W8. For this exact reason, Google wrote a framework to make it easy for android developers to port their apps to iOS.
Bluestacks is more like WINE than a traditional emulator. Which basically means it is faster.
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I don't see this hurting Windows 8. One it doesn't flow well with metro. All apps run on the desktop. Also, not as fast as native Windows 8 HTML5 apps.
Exactly. Most developers are pretty lazy about this sort of thing. They'll just create an android app and then just release a standalone apk for use on an emulator if the windows users want it.

There are numerous problems with porting apps to RT. For one, basically every platform out there uses BSD sockets (including Win32,) except RT which uses basically a newer version of winsock (which if you recall from back in the day, microsoft discarded it because it was riddled with problems.) Everything except RT supports at least some flavor of OpenGL. While RT has a DX11 style API, only the DX9 feature set is supported.

Those only scratch the surface, and they are by far the most common and most critical API's any developer needs to target for any mobile app. It is relatively easy to port apps between blackberry, android, and ios, but porting to RT is a whole other can of worms.

It's also for these exact reasons that most developers don't do native apps for RT, rather the apps they release are simply an overlay for a web page.

So what do we do if we need functions that aren't doable with HTML/CSS/ECMA? Easy, target android. Sure the app won't be as nice as native RT ones, but it'll be good enough to get a return on investment, whereas doing a full port probably requires a rewrite. Since only 3% (and declining) of the end user market uses WP, there's not any sense in doing a full port.
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Bluestacks is more like WINE than a traditional emulator. Which basically means it is faster.
Then that would rule out native ARM code in addition to a number of hardware features present on android but not on RT devices.
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