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Old Nov 17, 2008, 12:57 PM   #1
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Thermal paste or thermal pads?

I've seen some now "thermal pads" that can be used instead of general thermal paste. I was wondering if anybody here knows more about them and if they work as well as a good thermal paste.

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Paste. Always.


Thermal pads are usually thicker and transfer heat quite poorly, their only advantage being that they're very easy to apply without mess and often can act as an adhesive.

Thermal paste spreads thinner and transfers heat better, resulting in a much better thermal transfer. Even on stock coolers manufacturers have been including thermal paste instead of pads, pre applied in pad-like strips.


If you have a low heat application where ease of applying is more important than great efficiency in thermal transfer, they do the job. If you are concerned with performance, almost ANY thermal past will do better because it can be spread thinner.
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While we are on the subject what is you opinion on polishing the CPU's surface before applying the paste? Is this dangerous and does it work?
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polishing != lapping

http://www.svc.com/article-lapping.html

I personally won't lap a proc; they cost too much to fubar. Others have lapped cpu IHS's with great success. I have lapped a HS, and it did help. Users of Thermalright Ultra 120's have reported great increases in thermal dissipation by lapping their TRU/TRUE 120's.
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Hmm.... looks dangerous. Maybe I'll just forego it this time around. So which thermal paste should I use? Is that Ultra 120 the best to use these days? I haven't had a fully new rig since 2003.
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Hmm.... looks dangerous. Maybe I'll just forego it this time around. So which thermal paste should I use? Is that Ultra 120 the best to use these days? I haven't had a fully new rig since 2003.
as5 for thermal paste, check the sticky at the top of the forum for info on which cpu cooler.
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While we are on the subject what is you opinion on polishing the CPU's surface before applying the paste? Is this dangerous and does it work?
Use lots of cotton and isopropyl alcohol. Make sure the surface is dry before applying the paste (use dry cotton).

Also, Arctic Silver 5 is the best thermal paste IMO.
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One question though: Does thermal paste expire?

Asking because I have a tube of AS5 that's almost 3 years old. Should I throw it away and buy another one?
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One question though: Does thermal paste expire?

Asking because I have a tube of AS5 that's almost 3 years old. Should I throw it away and buy another one?
It will take more years than that to expire

Come on guys , AS5 is old news , AC MX-2 is the way to go , I bought both AS5 and MX-2 from e-bay for very good prices and tried both , my finding was : MX2 FTW!
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MX-2 here as well.
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OK, I found it on eBay for just under $10 shipped and bought some. Thanks all.
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Which ? AS5 or MX-2 ?

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I bought AS5 for 6.5$ and MX-2 for 12$
Oh, yeah it was the MX-2. I figured that it was the newest kid on the block, so I went for it. Hopefully its worth the hype.
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Tests show MX-2 performs better by 1 or 2 Celcius.
The only downside is that it's harder to apply on the CPU (more viscous)
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Its more runny? How much more... are there any tips on application I should use. How should I do this thing?
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Do you use a square of cardboard and apply it like butter or do you really use a rubber glove? I haven't had to mess with this sort of thing since before Artic Silver was even invented.
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I just put a small lump in the center of the cpu, which spreads evenly when I install the heatsink.
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Do you use a square of cardboard and apply it like butter or do you really use a rubber glove? I haven't had to mess with this sort of thing since before Artic Silver was even invented.
I rub a thin layer into the CPU's IHS and the cooler's surface, then mate them.
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If you do it correctly either way, there won't be any tangible difference.
Whats weird is Intel and Arctic Cooling recommend different ways to apply the paste.
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OK, so I spread it around a little and them press them together. But how much should I use? I don't want spill over, and this stuff is more runny than other brands. Any idea how much to use?

P.S. Thanks for all the help on a rather dry subject.
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OK, so I spread it around a little and them press them together. But how much should I use? I don't want spill over, and this stuff is more runny than other brands. Any idea how much to use?

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As much as it needs! Anyway, I guess if I had to estimate, I would say it's about the BB size on both surfaces. Usually, when I remove the HS, I see a thin bit has squished out. but I'm ok with that.
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OK, so I spread it around a little and them press them together. But how much should I use? I don't want spill over, and this stuff is more runny than other brands. Any idea how much to use?

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I put 3 thin lines on the 3 copper pipes of the cooler's base
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How about as little as it needs?
Once you apply enough to fully mate the surfaces, more paste won't help with heat transfer.
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Wait, so does it matter at all which surface you apply it to to start off? Wouldn't it be safer to butter it over the cooler's base and then squish them together?
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less is more with thermal paste. read the link i posted above for a tested method for applying thermal pastes, please.
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less is more with thermal paste. read the link i posted above for a tested method for applying thermal pastes, please.
Its odd, of all the methods of spreading the paste he didn't mention the credit card method that I've seen people do on You Tube. Where you place a dot on the middle of the CPU (rather than the cooler) and use a card to spread it all around the contqact area as you would butter on bread. Is there an advantage to spreading it onto either the CPU or cooler? Which is better? Does it matter?

So my question is to spread or not to spread... and on which part, on the CPU or the cooler?

I saw this video, which seemed like a pretty good jon. It spreads it on the CPU using a card.
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