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Old Apr 27, 2017, 12:13 PM   #1
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Asus's new Router is now unexpectedly available for purchase. I'm surprise no tech site mentions this. Anyone wants to beta test this new router?
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Consumer router prices have gotten out of hand. $400 for a wifi standard that's:
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b) still not usable by most clients
$400 for GigE and 256MB RAM? At that price I want at least 5GigE support, if not 10. It should have more ethernet ports as well. 802.11AD and AC should be a given, too, if you ask me.
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Consumer router prices have gotten out of hand. $400 for a wifi standard that's:
a) not the most recent
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$400 for GigE and 256MB RAM? At that price I want at least 5GigE support, if not 10. It should have more ethernet ports as well. 802.11AD and AC should be a given, too, if you ask me.
It has 1024MB RAM, ROM is 256MB.

But, I agree on the rest.
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Consumer router prices have gotten out of hand. $400 for a wifi standard that's:
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$400 for GigE and 256MB RAM? At that price I want at least 5GigE support, if not 10. It should have more ethernet ports as well. 802.11AD and AC should be a given, too, if you ask me.
Is just the price that's out of hand? It doing so much more than just routing. They're making it host file servers, download torrents, VPN connections. I hear the CPU has hardware encryption acceleration.
a) What's missing beside 802.11AD?
b) Explain
Broadcom's platform supports 2.5GigE. Why doesn't more router offer 5GigE support? You rather have 802.11AD over an Extra 5Ghz Wi-Fi band?
802.11AD doesn't look appealing to me on a router. I think it's better to have it in a storage device than a router since the range is so short.:/ The router's software does a lot of ****. Does that have any value at all?
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Is just the price that's out of hand? It doing so much more than just routing. They're making it host file servers, download torrents, VPN connections. I hear the CPU has hardware encryption acceleration.
a) What's missing beside 802.11AD?
b) Explain
Broadcom's platform supports 2.5GigE. Why doesn't more router offer 5GigE support? You rather have 802.11AD over an Extra 5Ghz Wi-Fi band?
802.11AD doesn't look appealing to me on a router. I think it's better to have it in a storage device than a router since the range is so short.:/ The router's software does a lot of ****. Does that have any value at all?
The Wi-Fi Alliance (body that certifies wireless standards) is pushing out too many standards, too quickly nowadays. Much like HDMI. Gotta give people reasons to constantly upgrade, right? This leads to slow adoption of a given standard (because only bleeding-edge tech heads like us buy this kind of stuff) which ultimately means not many devices support a given standard. There aren't even that many AC clients out now. Aside from other routers and some recent mobile devices that don't need that kind of bandwidth anyway. That is the point I was making.

But yes, I would rather have AD and 5GigE (or 10) than any of the software (or hardware) features of this router. Router manufacturers are trying to turn high-end routers into do-it-all boxes. Router, access point, NAS, media transcoder. I don't need a $400 box that I can plug a single USB hard drive into in order to serve that data over the network, I have a machine with 11x 4TB hard drives in it to handle that job.
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The Wi-Fi Alliance (body that certifies wireless standards) is pushing out too many standards, too quickly nowadays. Much like HDMI. Gotta give people reasons to constantly upgrade, right? This leads to slow adoption of a given standard (because only bleeding-edge tech heads like us buy this kind of stuff) which ultimately means not many devices support a given standard. There aren't even that many AC clients out now. Aside from other routers and some recent mobile devices that don't need that kind of bandwidth anyway. That is the point I was making.

But yes, I would rather have AD and 5GigE (or 10) than any of the software (or hardware) features of this router. Router manufacturers are trying to turn high-end routers into do-it-all boxes. Router, access point, NAS, media transcoder. I don't need a $400 box that I can plug a single USB hard drive into in order to serve that data over the network, I have a machine with 11x 4TB hard drives in it to handle that job.
Is AC Wi-Fi a premium option for laptops? They're pushing Wi-Fi N for budget back to school laptops? Not to many device AC clients support it out there is news to me. It seems to me everyone at least has an iphone 6 in NYC. I swear the train car is filled with passengers with iphones 6+.
I don't think these new router are worth it. Wi-fi AX is the one that I'm interested in. God know how long it'll take devices to catch up. The Wi-Fi Alliance is too slow to get that one out the door.
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Is AC Wi-Fi a premium option for laptops? They're pushing Wi-Fi N for budget back to school laptops? Not to many device AC clients support it out there is news to me. It seems to me everyone at least has an iphone 6 in NYC. I swear the train car is filled with passengers with iphones 6+.
I don't think these new router are worth it. Wi-fi AX is the one that I'm interested in. God know how long it'll take devices to catch up. The Wi-Fi Alliance is too slow to get that one out the door.
They're "AC" in the sense that they get to check the box but in reality their actual implementation of the AC protocol may as well be wireless N since almost all AC clients out there are just 1x1 antenna config.
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The price dropped to $291.99. Is this more reasonable? I'm guessing they dropped it because it has issues. or it's a mistake
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The price dropped to $291.99. Is this more reasonable? I'm guessing they dropped it because it has issues. or it's a mistake
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My first thought after looking at it was: WHAT THE FLYING **** is THAT thing?

Someone should take all the internal guts of that hideous thing and 3D print a shell for it.
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Or people are starting to realize that buying a huge expensive wifi router is kind of dumb when you can go the AP or mesh route and have better wifi without some stupid retarded spaceship crab in your house.
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ASUS RT-N66U paired with an AC-88ac PCI-e wireless adapter. Provides all the bandwidth I need. lol. For less than $200 total for the whole package.
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Why did you buy a 4x4 AC for router that doesn't support AC encode?
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Why did you buy a 4x4 AC for router that doesn't support AC encode?

It supports 3x3ac. (The router does.) The WiFi card supports 4x4ac. But, I got the high end card cause of the antenna and the warranty. (This WiFi card came with a 7 year warranty)

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC66U/
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It supports 3x3ac. (The router does.) The WiFi card supports 4x4ac. But, I got the high end card cause of the antenna and the warranty. (This WiFi card came with a 7 year warranty)

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC66U/
That's not the same model. Obviously the RT-AC66u does but you have a RT-N66u. The n66 in the post I was replying to a typo?
https://www.google.com/search?q=utf-8#q=ASUS+RT-N66U
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That's not the same model. Obviously the RT-AC66u does but you have a RT-N66u. The n66 in the post I was replying to a typo?
https://www.google.com/search?q=utf-8#q=ASUS+RT-N66U
lol. Yea, sorry. I didn't know there was an older version of that. Its an AC66.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16833320325 Thats the one I bought..
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