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Old Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM   #331
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Scores keep on getting higher... they must be ocing silly now:

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Scores keep on getting higher... they must be ocing silly now:

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no the single is about the same the other was a 5800x 8 core

this is a 5950x 16 core
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 07:34 AM   #334
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Looking to get the highest clocks I can get out of the box. Which one do I get and when can I buy it. ASAP. lol
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5950X then.
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 08:12 PM   #336
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I'd like to see what they can get all core first.
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I am going for a 5900x, I have a 3800x now I want some extra cores this time around.

Still not sure what video card I will upgrade too, will make that purchase early next year I guess.
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I'm seriously getting the urge to upgrade from my 9900K. If I didn't have a brand new block for it already sitting here for the new build, I probably would.

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and add smart access memory on top it is

now i need a 5900x and if some are right and they use CPU cores also for RT maybe a 5950x


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Are these expected to be in short supply on launch day?
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Are these expected to be in short supply on launch day?
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Any early signs of availability of this?
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I'm upgrading from a 4790k... can't wait ! Hesitating between a 5800x and a 5900x. Gonna try and pair it with a 3070, or 3080. I game in 1080 144 Hz, but want to get a VR headset in the next year or so.

I was looking at the Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 4 for cooling but I'm wondering if most memory will fit with this

Been a while that I looked into hardware, I'm out of the loop
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memory controller seems to be exactly the same. at least for the cpu buildzoid is talking about.

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I'm upgrading from a 4790k... can't wait ! Hesitating between a 5800x and a 5900x. Gonna try and pair it with a 3070, or 3080. I game in 1080 144 Hz, but want to get a VR headset in the next year or so.

I was looking at the Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 4 for cooling but I'm wondering if most memory will fit with this

Been a while that I looked into hardware, I'm out of the loop
You can also use DSR and still up the visuals for games that have the headroom for your target frame rate.
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Wow thats 4.7 ghz all core oc on air...
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Still 1900mhz max FCLK (3800 mhz RAM)

AMD said 4000 is the sweet spot, hopefully higher end sku's can be pushed to 2000mhz FCLK
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I'm upgrading from a 4790k... can't wait ! Hesitating between a 5800x and a 5900x. Gonna try and pair it with a 3070, or 3080. I game in 1080 144 Hz, but want to get a VR headset in the next year or so.

I was looking at the Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 4 for cooling but I'm wondering if most memory will fit with this

Been a while that I looked into hardware, I'm out of the loop
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Still 1900mhz max FCLK (3800 mhz RAM)

AMD said 4000 is the sweet spot, hopefully higher end sku's can be pushed to 2000mhz FCLK
He's not running standard timings, (go look at the video, towards the end at 12:00 mark). He's running that 3800Mhz at some insane timings (11-11-11-21). If he went back to the rated timings of the memory, he would do over 4000Mhz. The normal speed is 4400Mhz and the spec timings of 18-22-22-42 for that memory, according to the screenshots in the video.
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That was with 3300x for comparison. AIDA screenshot with 5600x shows 14-14-14-28

In any case, are you saying FCLK can by pushed to 2000mhz with looser timings?
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That was with 3300x for comparison. AIDA screenshot with 5600x shows 14-14-14-28

In any case, are you saying FCLK can by pushed to 2000mhz with looser timings?
you are right, it was the 3300x. The 5600x is at the beginning, which the standards timings for that memory for it's rated speed is 20-19-19-39 for 4400Mhz (XMP 1) or 19-19-19-39 for 4266 Mhz (XMP2). So he is still running at pretty tight timings for 3800Mhz for that memory at the 14-14-14-28.

The goal is to have 1:1 FCLK:MCLK, because it allows you to run lower timings and less latency (best performance) He can loosen the timings and it would allow him to run the memory at 4000Mhz, And possibly run the FCLK at 2000Mhz for the 1:1 ration, which is overclocking the infinity fabric, or at least for the 3000 series it is. (it automatically stays at 1:1 up to 3733Mhz memory). The goal is 1:1 ration, specially when Overclocking, but it could be 2:1 ratio as well if FCLK 2000Mhz isn't doable. That doesn't mean the memory won't run at 4000Mhz if the ration is 2:1, it just means there will be more latency because the FCLK isn't equal to MCLK. FCLK doesn't determine the memories max speed.
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I understand the goal is 1:1. I want to know if IF speed has been improved on 5000 series - AMD said 4000mhz memory was the sweet spot, so I assume that means 2000FCLK is possible while keeping 1:1 ratio [?]
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Old Nov 3, 2020, 08:16 AM   #357
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I understand the goal is 1:1. I want to know if IF speed has been improved on 5000 series - AMD said 4000mhz memory was the sweet spot, so I assume that means 2000FCLK is possible while keeping 1:1 ratio [?]
According to AMD nothing has changed on the memory controller, its the same as in Zen2. So really the max you can do is 3600MHz without losing the 1:1 ratio. Once you lose the 1:1 ratio you see a performance loss.

The 4000MHz memory would be needed to offset the 1:1 ratio loss. That's why they say its the sweet spot basically for overclocking.
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Why is PBO score lower than manual OC? Is it because PBO doesn't sustain the frequency as long?
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Why is PBO score lower than manual OC? Is it because PBO doesn't sustain the frequency as long?
PBO is alot like boost clock for GPUs, it has a thermal/power target that is constantly moving the clocks. Manual OC locks all cores to a specific frequency and says hold.
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