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Old Jan 14, 2021, 10:51 PM   #331
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First gen RGB power cables Free is better then $100 though!
Of course if I didn’t only need to pay shipping I wouldn’t have gotten it. I do like it that they feel like cables and not overly white plastic. Otherwise I would’ve probably removed them by now.
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A matter of preference I guess, but I like how the 2nd gen look and the RGB effect is better in my opinion.

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I thought they looked like total ass which is why they were sitting in my garage and given away for free

In saying that though, they look better in KACs photo than RL in my rig.. I kind of want them back now..
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Old Jan 15, 2021, 12:31 PM   #334
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A matter of preference I guess, but I like how the 2nd gen look and the RGB effect is better in my opinion.

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Yeah not a fan. Too much plastic. I will post a short clip of mine.
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Old Jan 15, 2021, 10:24 PM   #335
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Hey Riptide, did you see a noticeable performance improvement by getting a better timed memory?
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Old Jan 16, 2021, 01:35 PM   #336
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I'm really glad intel pushed Xe graphics. Hopefully this kicks AMD awake to be more aggressive with their APU graphics. Way too long on GCN Vega. But I will snag one one up if not a 6000 mobile Radeon first.
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Old Jan 17, 2021, 08:41 AM   #339
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Hey Riptide, did you see a noticeable performance improvement by getting a better timed memory?
Oh hell no. I'm running 2160p so memory speeds are not going to have any noticeable impact outside of a tiny difference on a synth benchmark.

While the kit I have installed now is certainly faster than the prevous CL16 32gb kit, had I a do-over, I would not have bothered changing modules.
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Old Jan 17, 2021, 09:31 AM   #340
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Oh hell no. I'm running 2160p so memory speeds are not going to have any noticeable impact outside of a tiny difference on a synth benchmark.

While the kit I have installed now is certainly faster than the prevous CL16 32gb kit, had I a do-over, I would not have bothered changing modules.
Ok thanks for letting me know. I was about to order some kits as an upgrade. It's a good thing the pricing is so absurd that my common sense prevailed yet again.
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So my putter was working absolutely fine and I was like this thing is dope and all dialed in. So after 3 or 4 random days I get a WHEA error with a reboot. I am like dafuq is this all about. It seems curve optimizer has some bugs which cause it to go bananas and cause WHEA errors if putter is on for multiple days. I did all the stability tests and what not.

So now I just went ballistic and gave it -30 on CO on all cores so that my volts are low and also down pumped from 200 MHz PBO boost down to 150 MHz. Finally, I also was setting PBO limits crazy high and learnt to just disable them in the bios and also set temp limit back to Auto.

Putter is going along fine. I see routinely single core boosting to 5.1 Gs and MC is OK. It isn't the 8600 or so CBR20 score I was pushing but more like 8400 CBR20 score now. I think this will do. The good thing out of this is that in games rather than boosting to 4625 all core now it is boosting to 4750 all core usually.

If it crashes again, I am literally selling off this setup. I am done messing with it and trying to make it bend it to my will. This whole cores, volts and temps bouncing around like ****ing bunny rabbits is pissing me off to no end. Btw my temps are now going to 85 C when gaming in COD BOCW. It is frickin' ridiculous since I stopped giving it override 1.25 volts.

Crashes at -30 also. So I just backed down to default PBO everything and disabled CO. Now running with auto everything except -100mV override on AMD overclocking volts.

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Old Jan 19, 2021, 08:35 AM   #342
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Turn the PC off when you're not using it seems like an easier solution to the curve optimizer bug.
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These beta bioses are wreaking havoc on PCs. Apparently ASUS boards are also suffering since they updated the AEGSA 1.2.0.0. and all people's clocks are no longer sticking or memory is not staying at a higher clock (e.g., a person able to do DDR4 3600 can no longer and has to dial back to 3466 and so on).

I am just sick and tired because the hardware is actually good. The bios/software/algorithm is where the issues lie. It is just annoying af that you spend all this time dialing in the system and completely randomly after DAYS it frickin' crashes! Wtf.
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These beta bioses are wreaking havoc on PCs. Apparently ASUS boards are also suffering since they updated the AEGSA 1.2.0.0. and all people's clocks are no longer sticking or memory is not staying at a higher clock (e.g., a person able to do DDR4 3600 can no longer and has to dial back to 3466 and so on).

I am just sick and tired because the hardware is actually good. The bios/software/algorithm is where the issues lie. It is just annoying af that you spend all this time dialing in the system and completely randomly after DAYS it frickin' crashes! Wtf.
AMD have 3 years with all this RYzen stuff on a lot less money than Intel..They still have things to figure out with a much smaller team of engineers.There is a lack of experience with this.If you don't want the adventure in two or 3 months you can go back to the safe Intel platform.
I can say that i updated the Bios on my B350 so so many times.I counted now how many bioses have been released from 2017 to 2020 and is around 31.The irony is i bought DDR4 B-die last year and the bios from 07.2020 actually made the memory and platform in general so stable at 3200 cl14 14 14 36. If i had it much earlier i would have stability issues.Fortunetly the platform now is very stable but i got sick of spending time beta testing and crashings and experimentation.
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If your fun is playing with overclocking I guess you just have to go intel. Running PBO 175mhz and I call it a day. Dont care about the rest of it as long as it dont crash. AMD has it set to maximum out of the box so you just dont gain that much out of it. Staying away from the Beta BIOS. Will only upgrade BIOS when they are supposed stable releases.
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If your fun is playing with overclocking I guess you just have to go intel. Running PBO 175mhz and I call it a day. Dont care about the rest of it as long as it dont crash. AMD has it set to maximum out of the box so you just dont gain that much out of it. Staying away from the Beta BIOS. Will only upgrade BIOS when they are supposed stable releases.
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Agree. That is exactly my attitude for the whole thing and exactly (PBO, 175mhz) my settings. I haven't even bothered to manually tweak the memory I just run it on DOCP.

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What’s the secret with 175?
You gays aren’t under volting? That thing runs what temps during games like COD or Immortals Fenyx Rising?
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Zen3's normal operating temp under load with aftermarket coolers is like 80C. Its fine.

As long as you're not crashing or badly getting clock speed throttled just play games and stop worrying about it.
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I have set it to the supposed magical number of 175 and also given it -100mV undervolt. Rig is performing fine for now. Need to wait 3-5 days before the uninvited crash will happen because AMD.
Also Nascar24 can you post the following:

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So I set everything on Auto and PBO at 175. Also didn’t undervolt and damn thing now boosts only 4575 in COD BOCW instead of 4750/4700/4650. Wtf is this crap?

My CBR20 score jumped up though to 8650 from 8410 by removing the undervolt. I seriously do not understand this processor at all. I have spent so much time trying to get it to be consistent but it just doesn’t want to do it.

It might be because I removed the temp threshold at 90C and now comp starts down pumping at 68 C. I really don’t know anymore.
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I have set it to the supposed magical number of 175 and also given it -100mV undervolt. Rig is performing fine for now. Need to wait 3-5 days before the uninvited crash will happen because AMD.
Also Nascar24 can you post the following:

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scores for comparison purposes. I am thinking about going custom water to see if that will improve my temps etc. However, throwing $500 on it seems like a waste of money .
That sounds like a lot of work, I'm sure my results will be below yours. I don't think I ever hit 80C on the processor. Upper 70's, but my FTW3 runs hot, but no crashes so don't really care. I picked 175Hz on the PBO as I did get a couple of Blue screens over a few days when it was set at 200Mhz. Haven't had one since changing it to 175Mhz. Don't touch any other settings.
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Those are like 2 min benches a pop max. Shouldn’t take more than 10 mins total. I didn’t ask for CBR20 SC score.
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I will look what I have installed when I'm home, don't think I have all those installed.
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The only that that concerns me with my memory timings is that my cache:memory timing ratio is 3:54. I should probably try to make it 1:1.
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