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Old Mar 12, 2021, 09:32 PM   #241
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Why Z590 over Z490?
Because it is designed for 11th gen.
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Because it is designed for 11th gen.
Won't Z490 do it all as well? MSI Tomahawk seems to be able to.
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Yes but I don’t know what kind of performance and component stress the chip will put on a Z490? If this is similar to Z370 can take in a 9900K processor then it might be OK. But if I am building a 11th gen system might as well get the new boards.
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We should know that next week then.
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Which Z590 board should I pick up? Trying to see if there is a Tomahawk but can’t locate even it’s webpage. Other options are Strix E and TUF. Thinking a TUF should be ENUF.

Wow both Strix and TUF not available. Only Gigabyte Aorus Ultra seems to be in decent price range.
I think you should just stick with your Ryzen 5900X system.
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Let’s see the results and then I will decide what’s up.
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Benefits of Z590 are x8 DMI link to chipset (up from x4 on Z490) for more storage, more USB 3.2 ports (10 vs 6), 3x USB 3.2 2x2 ports, and WIFI 6E.

From a performance and power delivery point of view, it's like all the boards have gone up a tier. IE- Z590 Aorus Ultra is basically like Z490 Auros Master.

Basically, you are getting a better board for the same money/tier as Z490.

That said, if I had a x570/5900x I wouldn't even look at it.
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Then who else gonna test the new platform for the community here?
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Then who else gonna test the new platform for the community here?
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Lots of people betting on new bios code might want to wait some more before buying:

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Of course this makes me feel very good about my 10900KF purchase....
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Hmm, some conflicting results there, Intel better at benchmarks, AMD better at gaming
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Yeah, surprised at that, would have guessed the opposite.
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CPUZ bench is whatever.
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Yeah, surprised at that, would have guessed the opposite.
Will be interested in the full reviews. Not that I will be changing out any time soon
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Of course this makes me feel very good about my 10900KF purchase....
Seriously, they should have just released 10900k with pcie 4.0 support and called it 11th gen..
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Seriously, they should have just released 10900k with pcie 4.0 support and called it 11th gen..
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You need 11th gen CPU to use gen4 features
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I stand corrected, thanks.
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Seems more and more reasons to not even look at 11th gen. Glad I got the 5900X when I did. They are still in short supply. 5600X and 5800X seem to be everywhere though now.
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Apparently there's a 'feature' unique to 11900k that will be revealed on the 30th... Probably 3200mhz Gear 1:1

I honestly think they achieved a few % gain from the extra 300mhz clock and since it wasn't enough, they gimped the i7 IMC to gain a few more %.

I think the biggest benefit of 11th gen will be gen 4 storage and direct access (SAM) using gen4 speeds.
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182$ USD or about 250$ CAD for a 6 core 12 thread 11400k thats a really good price.

Theres no way amd can keep on selling the 5600x for 550$ CAD up here.



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OK I have pre-ordered and payed for one of these POS.
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