Why is everything first released in USA?

UFO · Mar 24, 2004, 12:36 PM

I've noticed everything is released first in USA and a time after that in Europe. FarCry have been out at least a week in the US and it hasn't even showed up in Europe yet. The same thing is for other products as well. They always get released in USA first and other countries must settle to see the products weeks if not months later. The odd thing is that things that are even produced in Europe is released in USA first anyway. What's the logic behind this? Furthermore in other countries in Africa and middle east the products shows up even later.

One might believe that this has something to do with that they earn more in the American market. If you investigate the prices you quickly see that the price is much higher in Europe and even higher in third world countries.

So all other countries must settle with later releases and higher prices. WTF have I done to deserve this?

Red Dragon Tong · Mar 24, 2004, 12:38 PM

Most counterfiters are in europe.

They release in countrys where its harder to copy.
Make money in usa. then release it where they make less money.

kronchev · Mar 24, 2004, 12:38 PM

uh

farcry hasnt been released yet. its a stolen copy. also its buggy as hell so youre not missing anything.

plus, we make it, of course were going to get it first. were also by far the largest market (although the UK is insane in that respect)

/edit: it was planned to be released yesterday:

"Cry is scheduled to release on March 23,"

oh yeh and it looks like ****. the leaves are SPRITES for ****s sake. plus the controls are terrible

NissanNazi · Mar 24, 2004, 12:39 PM

They may charge more in other contries but I can guarantee after Import tax and all the other costs of selling overseas that they don't make as much as they do in the U.S.

UFO · Mar 24, 2004, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tegnstyle99
They may charge more in other contries but I can guarantee after Import tax and all the other costs of selling overseas that they don't make as much as they do in the U.S.

How do you explain that things not produced in USA gets there first anyway. Besides the prices in US is so much cheaper than in Europe even if it is a product made in Europe. One explanation might be the exchange rate but the difference is so high I really wonder.

Woodgypsy · Mar 24, 2004, 12:50 PM

Because USA is the largest market in the world, thus they can make largest money in USA. And you don't need to transrate language(in case of titles made in USA/UK or titles made for USA market in mind). "imported" product is often more expensive because of all these costs involved in importing, as well as it usually costs more margin there, as importing involves many companies.

Oh, btw, Far Cry is not USA-made product, just like many recent PC games. Far Cry is German game. And if you look carefully, you will notice many of these Europian games released in their home country and its surrounding country before appearing in USA. Same goes for Japanese console games as well. And of course, this apply to other products too..

Woodgypsy · Mar 24, 2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Axl
How do you explain that things not produced in USA gets there first anyway. Besides the prices in US is so much cheaper than in Europe even if it is a product made in Europe. One explanation might be the exchange rate but the difference is so high I really wonder.

Game industory is always thinking about USA market first, also releasing in USA first makes "importing to USA from Europe" less of issue, which makes the publisher in USA happier-and happiness of them is important because they pay most.

Oh, and the games aren't only thing which is expensive in Europe, mosts of industorial products are more expensive in Europe than in USA- althoguh I cannot explain very well about this, sadly. Perhaps some Rage3D economists will

UFO · Mar 24, 2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Woodgypsy
Game industory is always thinking about USA market first, also releasing in USA first makes "importing to USA from Europe" less of issue, which makes the publisher in USA happier-and happiness of them is important because they pay most.

Oh, and the games aren't only thing which is expensive in Europe, mosts of industorial products are more expensive in Europe than in USA- althoguh I cannot explain very well about this, sadly. Perhaps some Rage3D economists will

I wasn't meaning only games but almost all other products as well. I've also noticed the same thing with capital goods. Asus for example which is a Tawaneese company releases their products first in USA and later in Europe.

Firestorm_ATI · Mar 24, 2004, 01:05 PM

Other countries have video games?

ErrorS · Mar 24, 2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kronchev
uh

farcry hasnt been released yet. its a stolen copy. also its buggy as hell so youre not missing anything.

plus, we make it, of course were going to get it first. were also by far the largest market (although the UK is insane in that respect)

/edit: it was planned to be released yesterday:

"Cry is scheduled to release on March 23,"

oh yeh and it looks like ****. the leaves are SPRITES for ****s sake. plus the controls are terrible

lol..

the game looks like ****? the leaves are sprites?

as far as I can tell, they use alpha textures.

, what else would they use for leaves?

shockwave · Mar 24, 2004, 01:10 PM

don't video games have different publishers in different countries? that's why it takes longer to release?

euan · Mar 24, 2004, 01:11 PM

Think of it this way: Someone has to get the buggy version 0.999 test batch.

Woodgypsy · Mar 24, 2004, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Axl
I wasn't meaning only games but almost all other products as well. I've also noticed the same thing with capital goods. Asus for example which is a Tawaneese company releases their products first in USA and later in Europe.

Aside from that there is a largest amount of money in USA, also it has to be noted that due to the way media sees USA, success in USA is like free ads in Europe-like or dislike, USA has the largest influence. Also, since USA is single country with single language, it is much easier to set release date in USA than in Europe. And there's no need for "localization" when releasing in USA, they can just use "international version".

Still, i think there are many things that released in EU/Japan long before released in USA, though- i guess its largely subjective.

Yeuemmaimai · Mar 24, 2004, 01:17 PM

there are lots of things that never make it to the usa like japanese video games 190hp 4cyl accords, movies, etc.

euan · Mar 24, 2004, 01:19 PM

AFAIK a sense of humour still hasn't been shipped to the states...

jimmyboy · Mar 24, 2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Besides the prices in US is so much cheaper than in Europe even if it is a product made in Europe. One explanation might be the exchange rate but the difference is so high I really wonder.

Another explanation might be higher tax rates in a particular European nation. I don't have any one nation in mind but I know that some European nations have much higher tax rates than the USA.

Quote:

Originally posted by Firestorm_ATI
Other countries have video games?

There are other countries??

wazman · Mar 24, 2004, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyboy
There are other countries??

You can find them in the next expansion.

Doozer · Mar 24, 2004, 03:33 PM

most films & games are made in america, therefor they come out there first

Dalsim007 · Mar 24, 2004, 03:36 PM

Haha!
This is for the one who said the USA is the largest market in the world. You must be kidding?
Open an Atlas... You'll find some interesting facts...Like EU (European Union) is about 800 milions big a market... The US market is near 300.....add 30 for Canada..... and Mexico isn't much to add...

Just ask yourself why the US are pushing for the ZLÉA (Free trade zone extended to the all Americas)
You could add to that the whole asian market... Just check how many people live in China and India....there must be at least the same amount of persons who would buy games as in the US if the prices were better...

Please don't spread misinformation ok? The Bush government does enough of it. So no need to have midget do it too. ok?

Thank you

Tyr-Sog · Mar 24, 2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dalsim007

Please don't spread misinformation ok? The Bush government does enough of it. So no need to have midget do it too. ok?

Thank you

Can we leave this **** out of one thread!

villain4hire · Mar 24, 2004, 05:05 PM

usa is the largest market <----------- hahahaha that's funny.. Facts rule, lies sucks

black hole sun · Mar 24, 2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by villain4hire
usa is the largest market <----------- hahahaha that's funny.. Facts rule, lies sucks

I hate to break it to you but Canada has 1/8 the population the USA has.

Lindset · Mar 24, 2004, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kronchev
plus, we make it, of course were going to get it first. were also by far the largest market (although the UK is insane in that respect)

Uh... The company that made FarCry (CryTek) is actually German... and isn't Ubisoft (the publisher) a french company (originally, at least)?

Mar 24, 2004, 05:50 PM

Quote:

This is for the one who said the USA is the largest market in the world. You must be kidding?

The USA is the largest VIDEO GAME market in the world. This is especially true for PC games.

User Error · Mar 24, 2004, 05:50 PM

Did you know that the sun actually revolves around the USA? Other countries have only sasquatches and dragons, with a few human/bear creatures living in cabins here and there in mountains. The temperature in those distant lands can reach over 1000 degrees by day and 0 Kelvin by night.

And this is why everything gets released in the USA first.

Ub3r_n00b · Mar 24, 2004, 05:54 PM

This thread makes me sad...

**nutcrackr** · Mar 24, 2004, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trembrol
Did you know that the sun actually revolves around the USA? Other countries have only sasquatches and dragons, with a few human/bear creatures living in cabins here and there in mountains. The temperature in those distant lands can reach over 1000 degrees by day and 0 Kelvin by night.

And this is why everything gets released in the USA first.

sad but true.

I am just glad we get games at all over here(Australia). Our market must be very small - probably about the same as a large city the the USA. However we do miss out of some games and we don't have R rated games. Far Cry is released on the 25th over here - TODAY WOOTAGE. I think it was released in the USA on the 23rd or 24th? So that isn't too bad at all some games can take months to get here - Deus Ex : Invisible War for example. However that is a poor example because it is such a crud game I am not bothering to buy it. Thanks to the USA for testing out that piece of crap.

jbarby · Mar 24, 2004, 06:03 PM

a lot of products take years to make it to the United States a prime example are prodeucts produced in japan

and other high tech asian countries.

Sure we probably do get some things before the rest of the world. I havent really noticed that aspect however I do live here. We do not know how lucky we are at getting things early etc. until it doesn't happen to us that is probably true with any nation.

Another possible reason is not population but the fact that most of us american's cannot seem to hold onto their money buy all kinds of crap and are indebt

RedHerring · Mar 24, 2004, 06:10 PM

We get things first because of all the fat ass kids who sit around all day and play video games instead of going outside and getting some exercise.

jbarby · Mar 24, 2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by RedHerring
We get things first because of all the fat ass kids who sit around all day and play video games instead of going outside and getting some exercise.

I would hate to be that kid........oh wait a minute damn maybe I should .......... nah too lazy

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UFO Who's your buddy? Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,928	Why is everything first released in USA? I've noticed everything is released first in USA and a time after that in Europe. FarCry have been out at least a week in the US and it hasn't even showed up in Europe yet. The same thing is for other products as well. They always get released in USA first and other countries must settle to see the products weeks if not months later. The odd thing is that things that are even produced in Europe is released in USA first anyway. What's the logic behind this? Furthermore in other countries in Africa and middle east the products shows up even later. One might believe that this has something to do with that they earn more in the American market. If you investigate the prices you quickly see that the price is much higher in Europe and even higher in third world countries. So all other countries must settle with later releases and higher prices. WTF have I done to deserve this? __________________ Intel 80386 16 MHz, VGA graphics, 4MB RAM, 30MB HDD, 3.5" floppy drive 45303 3dMark06, Crysis 2 60 fps all settings at highest.

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Red Dragon Tong Pii = 2 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: iwoa, canada Posts: 6,419	Most counterfiters are in europe. They release in countrys where its harder to copy. Make money in usa. then release it where they make less money.

Mar 24, 2004, 12:50 PM	#6
Woodgypsy Whiney Supersnob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Flying Teapot on Oven! Posts: 3,019	Because USA is the largest market in the world, thus they can make largest money in USA. And you don't need to transrate language(in case of titles made in USA/UK or titles made for USA market in mind). "imported" product is often more expensive because of all these costs involved in importing, as well as it usually costs more margin there, as importing involves many companies. Oh, btw, Far Cry is not USA-made product, just like many recent PC games. Far Cry is German game. And if you look carefully, you will notice many of these Europian games released in their home country and its surrounding country before appearing in USA. Same goes for Japanese console games as well. And of course, this apply to other products too..

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shockwave canucklehead Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SK Posts: 15,041	don't video games have different publishers in different countries? that's why it takes longer to release?

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Yeuemmaimai Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 9,002	there are lots of things that never make it to the usa like japanese video games 190hp 4cyl accords, movies, etc.

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villain4hire Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 1,427	usa is the largest market <----------- hahahaha that's funny.. Facts rule, lies sucks

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Mar 24, 2004, 06:03 PM	#28
jbarby Victory is Mine! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 1,749	a lot of products take years to make it to the United States a prime example are prodeucts produced in japan and other high tech asian countries. Sure we probably do get some things before the rest of the world. I havent really noticed that aspect however I do live here. We do not know how lucky we are at getting things early etc. until it doesn't happen to us that is probably true with any nation. Another possible reason is not population but the fact that most of us american's cannot seem to hold onto their money buy all kinds of crap and are indebt

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