UK 1MB Broadband Provider Q

WiseJoeyD · May 24, 2004, 08:22 AM

hi there!

i was wondeirng; We have BT Yahoo Brodband, which as you know is £30 a month. I saw an advert for AOL 1MB Brodband for £30 (though, I think thats NOT including VAT which then brings it to something like £35).

BT also provide a 1MB service for £40; is there any hidden 'catches' with AOL's offer, or should we go ahead and change over to them?

Mr_Skinny · May 24, 2004, 08:25 AM

I wouldn't touch AOL with a bargepole. Freeserve, or Wanadoo as they are now known, do a 1MB connection for 34.99inc VAT.

Doozer · May 24, 2004, 08:28 AM

I wouldn't touch AOL either.

There are many more providers that supply faster lines.

If you are happy to pay the £40 with BT, why not look at Bulldogdsl who provide a 2Mb line for £38 (its what I have and would recommend as I have had NO problems and NO downtime with them !)

Shop around, see what suits you.

Shorty · May 24, 2004, 08:31 AM

www.adslguide.org.uk

WiseJoeyD · May 24, 2004, 10:14 AM

Thanks, everyone, for the info!

Shorty, I have tried adsl, though couldnt find per user reviews of each server, only graphs, which may not/dont seem to tell the hwole story.

Indeed, in the interestes of knowing the 'whole story', what is the big sticing point with AOL's service? Is it to do with downtime or something?

Also, to swap BB providers, dont you have to get some code off your exisint gprovider and then give this info to your new ISP and they can switch you over quickly?

And finally, with bulldog, do they have any sort of capping limit to their service? (It seems when you look at an unbeliebale offer ["BT 512k for £20!!"], they always have some obscure small print telling you its 1GB, which can be surpassed easily and accidentally, if you download music, patches, files, online game etc)

WiseJoeyD · May 24, 2004, 10:24 AM

just checked availability on Bulldog and it seems that, only using postcode, the line is eligible for their 1mb service @ £33 a month but with a large connection fee (£58.5), yet when using my actual phone number, it says I live outside 3km and so only technically capable of 512k.

Just out of itnerest, any caps on the 512k service or the 1mb service? I couldnt see any references to caps or not.

Doozer · May 24, 2004, 10:28 AM

I dont think bulldogs caps, max I have downloaded in a day is 6Gb, probably 15-20 in a week and they havent complained

WiseJoeyD · May 24, 2004, 10:36 AM

right, well, it seems that, after visiting BT and checking my phone number, I can't get 1MB at all. Ah well(interestingly funny that I'm moaning a little aboutt he speed of 512k! I must have been muderous when I had 56k!).

Is there any way, in future of spreading the reach of faster broadband services (ie overcome technical reasons why the signal needs to be within 3km/5km for faster services?)

Johnmcl7 · May 24, 2004, 10:40 AM

BT need to upgrade their network for higher speeds to be available at further distances, which knowing BT will probably never happen...

John

Firebreather · May 24, 2004, 10:42 AM

They are working on that, but atm u should be glad u even have 512k, seeing as how Bt are rolling out broadband in the Uk....

Nomad_1972 · May 24, 2004, 01:16 PM

I've been with Freeserve/Wanadoo for nearly two years. Upgraded from my 512k to a 1Mb line last week (£34.99 per month) and it flies! Never had any problems with them at all. I would definitely recommend them.

lumpyhed · May 24, 2004, 01:41 PM

Have you tried seeing if cable is availible in your area? Furthermore with adsl your line may not even be capable of 512k+ speeds. I sure know mine isn't.

Mr_Skinny · May 24, 2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nomad_1972
I've been with Freeserve/Wanadoo for nearly two years. Upgraded from my 512k to a 1Mb line last week (£34.99 per month) and it flies! Never had any problems with them at all. I would definitely recommend them.

Same here although ive been with them for nearly 5 years, all of them trouble free

Deathbecomesyou · May 24, 2004, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr_Skinny
Same here although ive been with them for nearly 5 years, all of them trouble free

Also got the Wanadoo service, getting 100k per second. Would have thought i would get 120k ps, as per my previous 1 mb service from Blueyonder?

Any good way of testing?

Mr_Skinny · May 24, 2004, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathbecomesyou
Also got the Wanadoo service, getting 100k per second. Would have thought i would get 120k ps, as per my previous 1 mb service from Blueyonder?

Any good way of testing?

There are some sites where you can check your speed, cant remember what they are though. Ive had downloads at 120kps, but alot of sites i download from you are restricted to 100kps unless you subscribe to use the faster private servers

Jasef · May 24, 2004, 05:08 PM

Woah, isn't that a pretty hefty price for 1mbit?

Doozer · May 24, 2004, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jasef
Woah, isn't that a pretty hefty price for 1mbit?

Yeah, but this is the UK

WiseJoeyD · May 25, 2004, 08:39 AM

What technical way could they ovecome the distance limit? Also, what are the prices of broadband in other countries? A reply there seemed to be shocked at the prices in the UK...

Sgt.Nathan · May 25, 2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiseJoeyD
What technical way could they ovecome the distance limit? Also, what are the prices of broadband in other countries? A reply there seemed to be shocked at the prices in the UK...

my dutch friend has a 2mbit line for 25£

DrHLecter · May 25, 2004, 01:18 PM

I think that Pipex Communications offer a 1024K service with unlimited usage for £33.

Jasef · May 25, 2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiseJoeyD
Also, what are the prices of broadband in other countries? A reply there seemed to be shocked at the prices in the UK...

For a little less then £30, I think I could get about 10mbit where I live. There are also offers that gives me 8mbit and 2mbit for marginally less, it pretty much depends on where you liveand what the possibilities are at that place.

Lunar Wolf · May 25, 2004, 02:41 PM

To increse the range of DSL you have to reduce the upload speed, this can boost the range from about 4km to 5 maybe 6km. Alot is dependent on the quality of the wires, if their not copper and that nasty 60s Aliminum (sp) then that adds resistance and noise and cuts thing down even more. Thats part of the problem with the exchange areas in the sticks (distace and bad cable). BT are looking into wireless DSL, transmitted from the top of the nearest Telegraph pole, And there's a huge ongoing cable renewal project, its slow and costs a fortune but belive me BT know Broadband is its future, they actually make more out of broadband then just the standarrd Land-lines. Just be patient

Johnmcl7 · May 25, 2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathbecomesyou
Also got the Wanadoo service, getting 100k per second. Would have thought i would get 120k ps, as per my previous 1 mb service from Blueyonder?

Any good way of testing?

It's changed a little but this is quite a good speed test:

http://www.broadbandspeedtest.net/

John

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WiseJoeyD Otaku Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belfast Posts: 569	UK 1MB Broadband Provider Q hi there! i was wondeirng; We have BT Yahoo Brodband, which as you know is £30 a month. I saw an advert for AOL 1MB Brodband for £30 (though, I think thats NOT including VAT which then brings it to something like £35). BT also provide a 1MB service for £40; is there any hidden 'catches' with AOL's offer, or should we go ahead and change over to them?

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May 24, 2004, 10:14 AM	#5
WiseJoeyD Otaku Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belfast Posts: 569	Thanks, everyone, for the info! Shorty, I have tried adsl, though couldnt find per user reviews of each server, only graphs, which may not/dont seem to tell the hwole story. Indeed, in the interestes of knowing the 'whole story', what is the big sticing point with AOL's service? Is it to do with downtime or something? Also, to swap BB providers, dont you have to get some code off your exisint gprovider and then give this info to your new ISP and they can switch you over quickly? And finally, with bulldog, do they have any sort of capping limit to their service? (It seems when you look at an unbeliebale offer ["BT 512k for £20!!"], they always have some obscure small print telling you its 1GB, which can be surpassed easily and accidentally, if you download music, patches, files, online game etc)

May 24, 2004, 10:24 AM	#6
WiseJoeyD Otaku Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belfast Posts: 569	just checked availability on Bulldog and it seems that, only using postcode, the line is eligible for their 1mb service @ £33 a month but with a large connection fee (£58.5), yet when using my actual phone number, it says I live outside 3km and so only technically capable of 512k. Just out of itnerest, any caps on the 512k service or the 1mb service? I couldnt see any references to caps or not.

May 24, 2004, 10:28 AM	#7
Doozer lollollollol Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SE London, UK Posts: 19,033	I dont think bulldogs caps, max I have downloaded in a day is 6Gb, probably 15-20 in a week and they havent complained __________________ Rage3d flickr Group

May 24, 2004, 10:36 AM	#8
WiseJoeyD Otaku Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belfast Posts: 569	right, well, it seems that, after visiting BT and checking my phone number, I can't get 1MB at all. Ah well(interestingly funny that I'm moaning a little aboutt he speed of 512k! I must have been muderous when I had 56k!). Is there any way, in future of spreading the reach of faster broadband services (ie overcome technical reasons why the signal needs to be within 3km/5km for faster services?)

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May 24, 2004, 01:41 PM	#12
lumpyhed Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Limeysville Posts: 13,637	Have you tried seeing if cable is availible in your area? Furthermore with adsl your line may not even be capable of 512k+ speeds. I sure know mine isn't.

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May 25, 2004, 02:41 PM	#22
Lunar Wolf arr ye scurvy noobs!!1 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,146	To increse the range of DSL you have to reduce the upload speed, this can boost the range from about 4km to 5 maybe 6km. Alot is dependent on the quality of the wires, if their not copper and that nasty 60s Aliminum (sp) then that adds resistance and noise and cuts thing down even more. Thats part of the problem with the exchange areas in the sticks (distace and bad cable). BT are looking into wireless DSL, transmitted from the top of the nearest Telegraph pole, And there's a huge ongoing cable renewal project, its slow and costs a fortune but belive me BT know Broadband is its future, they actually make more out of broadband then just the standarrd Land-lines. Just be patient

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