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Old Aug 16, 2021, 11:24 AM   #1
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Videocard Intel Arc discrete GPU Q1 2022

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/16/2...e-release-date

Intel is branding its upcoming consumer GPUs as Intel Arc. This new Arc brand will cover both the hardware and software powering Intel’s high-end discrete GPUs, as well as multiple hardware generations. The first of those, known previously as DG2, is expected to arrive in the form of codename “Alchemist” in Q1 2022.

Intel’s Arc-based Alchemist GPUs will be available in both desktops and notebooks in early 2022, with Intel seemingly aiming to compete against both AMD and Nvidia here. While we still don’t know much about the performance of the first Alchemist GPUs, Intel published a teaser video today that showed prototype silicon powering PUBG, Psychonauts 2, Metro Exodus, and more.

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Not holding my breath but I would love it if Intel's gpu was a serious contender in the race.
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Old Aug 16, 2021, 01:29 PM   #3
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Not holding my breath but I would love it if Intel's gpu was a serious contender in the race.
I deleted the part of the post where I said much the same. Intel has been talking about a discreet solution forever, but like many folks, I would just love to see some other serious, viable solution be made available besides NV and AMD.
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Just us two? Nobody else? Okay…
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I have zero faith in anyone making something competitive at this point. It's NV and AMD for now, until there's some insane new technology that changes how we currently do things.
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Intel is branding its upcoming consumer GPUs as Intel Arc. This new Arc brand will cover both the hardware and software powering Intel’s high-end discrete GPUs, as well as multiple hardware generations. The first of those, known previously as DG2, is expected to arrive in the form of codename “Alchemist” in Q1 2022.

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My biggest take away from this is that they're finally coming out with a new Psychonauts!
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One thing I will say is that Intel at least has deep enough pockets to fund GPU R&D. They also have Raja Koduri working for them, among others. Yes, Vega was a bit of a disappointment, but it was at least functional and somewhat competitive (undervolted it could be pretty good, although it was still a disappointment in that it was not competitive with the 1080 Ti which had the same die size).

If Intel can create a GPU on that level of competitiveness I'd have to think it would be considered a success for a first time outing. Plus with the current GPU shortage even a second-tier product might still sell well provided it is available in decent quantities at a reasonable price.
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My biggest take away from this is that they're finally coming out with a new Psychonauts!


Agreed with your 2nd post too. I would love to see a mid tier card released that could give NV a run for their money in that segment.
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I have zero faith in anyone making something competitive at this point. It's NV and AMD for now, until there's some insane new technology that changes how we currently do things.
And if that does come along either NV or AMD will buy them up.
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About as exciting as watching a train wreck.
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Intel making a competitive GPU...

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If the drivers are fine, and lately intel gpu drivers seem to work ok from those I know that run it, it should be good if the price is right.

I just hope they make them in quantity.
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I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Besides, how are they going to even produce enough to meet demand if it is good enough?

Everyone is having trouble right now producing enough of practically everything. Seems like it would just be more vaporware.
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I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Besides, how are they going to even produce enough to meet demand if it is good enough?

Everyone is having trouble right now producing enough of practically everything. Seems like it would just be more vaporware.
The ultimate troll would be if intel named their GPU the Vaporware (or call it Vaporwave to change it just a little lol), and it actually gets released and is super competitive.
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Anyone want to bet if it'll be low tier OEM only?
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Anyone want to bet if it'll be low tier OEM only?
Almost guaranteed at least some version of it will be.
The DG1 is already low tier OEM only lol.

Then there will be the variants included in their CPU's.
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That's perfectly fine! Low end is dead nowadays, it is up for grabs. I'd love to buy a cheap HDMI 2.1 HTPC card for Netflix and Kodi, the cheapest option today is above 300$? Gimme a break

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Here’s a recent release that covers rumors on performance. Anywhere from 3060ti to 3090.

THESE ARE RUMORS.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...-release-date/
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THESE ARE RUMORS.

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Old Aug 19, 2021, 01:25 PM   #27
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A DLSS competitor that just works on everything would be a really good thing.
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Old Aug 19, 2021, 01:33 PM   #28
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A DLSS competitor that just works on everything would be a really good thing.
Indeed. Make a volume product and we shall see.
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Indeed. Make a volume product and we shall see.
that is not 14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

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Didn't they rename the process? 14 is the new 7?
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