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Old Nov 6, 2021, 11:24 AM   #211
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For purely gaming the 12600k is no more than 2% faster than 5600x.The cheapest board for intel is at least 2x more expensive that i payed on my B550m Bazooka.Also i bought the 5600x at 260$.For my needs the ADL was not justified because of the costs.
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 12:05 PM   #212
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It's just a repeat of the x570 situation, the mainstream boards will follow.
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 01:51 PM   #213
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Oh.. btw, most of the actual games that matter on that list (Star Wars: JFO, For Honor, SOTTR) have already been patched..
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 03:00 PM   #214
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It's just a repeat of the x570 situation, the mainstream boards will follow.
I forgot that that ocers and rich people were first ...
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 03:42 PM   #215
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I forgot that that ocers and rich people were first ...
I mean, the OCers and ppl with money are the ones that drive the industry, not the budget users.
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You must be pretty rich yourself there gai with the rig you have.

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Decent release by intel. I'm still lost as to what good results are for DDR5, haven't really looked into it yet.

Going to sit this one out for a while. The price of whole platform is very expensive over here and it's very difficult to find any decent DDR5 as well. Not sure about US or EU. Feel like I need to see this platform and DDR5 mature a bit too.
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Agree with demo, especially on DDR5 maturity and availability.
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DDR5 is stupid expensive and at this point doesnt look like huge gains. Glad they finally have it out there so when the real next gen comes out it should be a more reasonable price.
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DDR5 is stupid expensive and at this point doesnt look like huge gains. Glad they finally have it out there so when the real next gen comes out it should be a more reasonable price.
My thoughts as well. I'll probably skip this one out, and wait for a refresh of Zen 4.
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Depends on one's life really.Some people life is so depressed that pc is a safe cave so they invest last money in it even if they are not so rich.Maybe your niece is spending money on some other hobby.The pc may not be a priority for her.
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Decent release by intel. I'm still lost as to what good results are for DDR5, haven't really looked into it yet.

Going to sit this one out for a while. The price of whole platform is very expensive over here and it's very difficult to find any decent DDR5 as well. Not sure about US or EU. Feel like I need to see this platform and DDR5 mature a bit too.

Next year are so many releases if the schedule is kept.You will have new GPU's gen.You will have AMD release ZEN 3 V cache and the new AM5 platform in fall.Will shake the market even more.I feel there is no point of upgrading now with so many intersting releases next year.Upgrade next year when the market is shaken.
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Next year are so many releases if the schedule is kept.You will have new GPU's gen.You will have AMD release ZEN 3 V cache and the new AM5 platform in fall.Will shake the market even more.I feel there is no point of upgrading now with so many intersting releases next year.Upgrade next year when the market is shaken.
I think you should keep waiting indefinitely.
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As others have said, biggest minuses of Alderlake to me are quite expensive motherboards and DDR5 also being very expensive. Granted if you already own DDR4 you can just use that.

Also, while faster, if you already own an Intel 9000 series onwards, or Ryzen 5000 series onwards (maybe even 3000 series depending on what resolution you're running), you have to ask yourself whether it's worth the hassle to upgrade when your current system should still be doing just fine.
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sykes I think it would be helpful if you post a comment along with the video links like: "See, it sucks!".

Why should I watch it? Is it about the DRM? You've posted that already.
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Without watching it, my guess is that it is a video about alder lake being z690-only for the moment.
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Without watching it, my guess is that it is a video about alder lake being z690-only for the moment.
Yeah, hopefully less expensive boards are incoming. Looks like right now DDR5 is too much for not enough but that will surely change as DDR5 matures next year.
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sykes I think it would be helpful if you post a comment along with the video links like: "See, it sucks!".

Why should I watch it? Is it about the DRM? You've posted that already.
I thought the visible words on like: "Alder Lake's Platform" and "Intel fatal flaw" were enough to tell what's inside.
They say that sales for the platform are average at best and they discuss the reasons.The whole video is about the platform not as expected reception.It is for people who have money and are still at the fence to buy or not to buy.

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I'm telling you these normal people who have no idea how to mem OC need to stop trying to make comparison articles. DDR4 16-20-20 is ****ing embarrassing. The only reason he couldn't get it tighter is 100% because he has no idea how to tune anything besides changing vDIMM voltage and altering primary timings. If you suck at OCing and don't understand how to figure things out on your own without a guide, you shouldn't be making articles on it. It's disingenuous and misleading.

What a terrible comparison of DDR4 vs DDR5. Even the DDR5 speeds are atrocious.. just about every kit is able to do low 40s tRAS from the info everyone is sharing on OCN.. he's running it at 72.. lol.
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I'm pretty sure W1zzard knows what he's talking about. He's the creator of GPU-Z and many other utilities.

It's not an article about oc and tuning, just plug and play comparisons for the most part.
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Well my 10900KF seems to be doing very well @ 1140p so......
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I'm pretty sure W1zzard knows what he's talking about. He's the creator of GPU-Z and many other utilities.

It's not an article about oc and tuning, just plug and play comparisons for the most part.
Maybe he should stick to GPUs then..
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