Official XBOX Series X thread

Nascar24 · Dec 12, 2019, 08:42 PM

Discuss,
Guess they couldn’t come up with something original.
Shape is different.

SubCog · Dec 12, 2019, 11:26 PM

So I suppose the lower tier version will be Xbox Series S. They're definitely matching Tesla's naming convention.

**Gandalfthewhite** · Dec 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

heck even looks like a PC now. lol

KAC · Dec 13, 2019, 12:58 AM

That looks tight.

**logical** · Dec 13, 2019, 01:31 AM

Definitely looks like a PC. Hope the top glows.

**SirBaron** · Dec 13, 2019, 06:31 AM

For me the main thing isn't the design which looks basically like a black box with a glowing green top.

It's the fact how do you fit that underneath a TV.

DeathKnight · Dec 13, 2019, 06:53 AM

You going to post any info or video? lol

**shrike126** · Dec 13, 2019, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBaron

For me the main thing isn't the design which looks basically like a black box with a glowing green top.

It's the fact how do you fit that underneath a TV.

My understanding is that it also lays flat horizontally. Which means it wouldn't be much bigger than a current gen console.

The name is dumb.

When I saw the announcement trailer last night, I legit watched it twice trying to understand what it was they were showing off. After that, I had to Google WTF an "Xbox Series X" really was. Only then did I realize this isn't a new edition of the current gen console, like the One S, but rather a whole new generation console.

**logical** · Dec 13, 2019, 08:43 AM

Even laying it down its kind of big to fit into most entertainment systems. I dont think it will fit in the area under my TV either way. It depends on how tall/long it is. Looking at the scale of the controller next to it, its about 2 and a half controllers and that maybe be too big.

Consoles have come full circle now

MS said **** it we'll just re-purpose a PC and forget about trying to make custom pieces of hardware to fit in a small case.

This is going to sell like hot cakes even with an inflated price. Lets see what design PS5 comes out with. I feel like the hardware is going to be similar so it comes down to which one looks better.

**shrike126** · Dec 13, 2019, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

Even laying it down its kind of big to fit into most entertainment systems. I dont think it will fit in the area under my TV either way. It depends on how tall/long it is. Looking at the scale of the controller next to it, its about 2 and a half controllers and that maybe be too big.

Consoles have come full circle now

MS said **** it we'll just re-purpose a PC and forget about trying to make custom pieces of hardware to fit in a small case.

This is going to sell like hot cakes even with an inflated price. Lets see what design PS5 comes out with. I feel like the hardware is going to be similar so it comes down to which one looks better.

Yeah, after I mentioned that I looked around and found some renders of the Xbox Series X approximating the size, and if they're even close to accurate, this is a big bitch. It won't fit in my entertainment center.

Some are saying it's probably a little smaller than it looks like it is here, but even still, that thing is THICC.

**SirBaron** · Dec 13, 2019, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrike126

Yeah, after I mentioned that I looked around and found some renders of the Xbox Series X approximating the size, and if they're even close to accurate, this is a big bitch. It won't fit in my entertainment center.

Some are saying it's probably a little smaller than it looks like it is here, but even still, that thing is THICC.

In a sense it's not surprising, it's what a 12 terraflop machine with a high-ish (for a console) end AMD CPU, and a SSD etc and it's probably (better have) the PSU also inside.

They're not going to make a tiny machine with that level of power and cooling as well. Sony seem to be better at making smaller machines, but I imagine the PS5 will be fairly large too.

Nascar24 · Dec 13, 2019, 10:42 AM

I guess it is finally true to the name XBOX

SubCog · Dec 13, 2019, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar24

I guess it is finally true to the name XBOX

The xbone didn't look like a bone though. If any xbox ever looked like a bone, it was the original xbox360.

Elysian · Dec 13, 2019, 02:00 PM

I hope the price reflects how much money they saved on design.

Sasquach · Dec 13, 2019, 03:16 PM

So is Microsoft converging PC and Xbox?

So that PC is the one where you can do wahtevers to it, while the xbox is just the thing where you want to set it and forget it?

I Mean everytime MS releases stuff, seems like theyre moving to get PC and Xbox content released at the same time.

**shrike126** · Dec 13, 2019, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquach

So is Microsoft converging PC and Xbox?

So that PC is the one where you can do wahtevers to it, while the xbox is just the thing where you want to set it and forget it?

I Mean everytime MS releases stuff, seems like theyre moving to get PC and Xbox content released at the same time.

I'm very okay with this approach. Between xCloud, the Xbox as a TV console, and Microsoft running Game Pass to give us PC games at the same time, this really feels like they're taking a very game centric approach to things this time around.

**SirBaron** · Dec 14, 2019, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian

I hope the price reflects how much money they saved on design.

This won’t be cheap it’s pretty high spec, the cheaper slower version will be cheapish.

**nutcrackr** · Dec 14, 2019, 02:49 AM

Who is naming these consoles? Xbox One was a terrible name, for obvious reasons. Xbox One X was probably the worst console name so far. But they have really managed to outdoor themselves this time. Series X? Really?

Dungeoncrawler · Dec 14, 2019, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBaron

This won’t be cheap it’s pretty high spec, the cheaper slower version will be cheapish.

I believe mr. spencer has already been quoted as saying he will not sacrifice performance for price?

**SirBaron** · Dec 14, 2019, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dungeoncrawler

I believe mr. spencer has already been quoted as saying he will not sacrifice performance for price?

There's going to be a 2nd cheaper machine that will by current rumors be slower than the X in GPU (4TF vs 6TF) but have the advantage of the new CPU and other features.

While the expensive machine will be the 12TF beast and I imagine will be 600 or more. No way that version will be 400.

Nascar24 · Dec 14, 2019, 07:59 AM

They really shouldn’t go higher then $499 or it’s going to be a hard sell for the masses.

SubCog · Dec 14, 2019, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBaron

There's going to be a 2nd cheaper machine that will by current rumors be slower than the X in GPU (4TF vs 6TF) but have the advantage of the new CPU and other features.

While the expensive machine will be the 12TF beast and I imagine will be 600 or more. No way that version will be 400.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar24

They really shouldn’t go higher then $499 or it’s going to be a hard sell for the masses.

They haven't yet announced the lower-tier box. Rumors suggest that it'll be about the same power as a PS4 Pro, so I think it's reasonable that it could land in the $300-$400 range. If the low-tier box is priced well, I think that gives MS alot of flexibility to go crazy with the price of the high-tier box. It could be $800 if they want, and be perfectly successful selling in low volumes.

LordHawkwind · Dec 14, 2019, 01:11 PM

Agree it looks like a PC and that's fine by me. My Xbone X stands near my TV so I'm not bothered about the size of the thing. Will have to see what the noise level is like given the components inside but it looks OK to me.

Regarding price Phil Spencer has already admitted that it was a mistake last time around to introduce the Xbone X at $£499 and has committed to releasing this console at a better price point. I think to sell well and get traction it needs to sell for $£400 otherwise it's going to struggle.

MS still want to be the No 1 console player so they are aware that price is a big issue with consumers. Remember MS make probably more money on game sales so they need to have the console in gamer's hands from day one if it's going to be successful.

If they price it at $£600+ it's dead on arrival and their game sales will fall off a cliff. Also don't forget the game pass subscriptions they already have they don't want to start hemorrhaging those as most likely they won't get them back. If it launches at £400 I'm all over it but if it launches at a higher price point no thanks.

Nascar24 · Dec 14, 2019, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCog

They haven't yet announced the lower-tier box. Rumors suggest that it'll be about the same power as a PS4 Pro, so I think it's reasonable that it could land in the $300-$400 range. If the low-tier box is priced well, I think that gives MS alot of flexibility to go crazy with the price of the high-tier box. It could be $800 if they want, and be perfectly successful selling in low volumes.

I don’t see the point of the low end model when it is less then what we have in the one x already. The only one worth buying is the real next gen console and $800 will be way to much.

SubCog · Dec 14, 2019, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar24

I don’t see the point of the low end model when it is less then what we have in the one x already. The only one worth buying is the real next gen console and $800 will be way to much.

Well it's not quite apples to apples. The low-tier Xbox will still have a much faster CPU than the xbone x, and will run the new generation of games.

Still, it would probably make more sense to have the low-tier Xbox at least match the GPU power of the xbone x, so they could carry over all the bc content. I'm hoping they push aggressively on price though. Would be interesting to see the low-tier box launch at $300, and the high-tier at $500.

Dungeoncrawler · Dec 16, 2019, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar24

I don’t see the point of the low end model when it is less then what we have in the one x already. The only one worth buying is the real next gen console and $800 will be way to much.

rumor is the lower-tier will actually be the one x. microsoft will probably just rename it or something? btw the thing looks a lot like my spectrum wi-fi modem.

Ziklitschli · Dec 16, 2019, 06:40 AM

Not sure what's the point of an xbox now, just an inferior PC without console exclusives.

SubCog · Dec 16, 2019, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dungeoncrawler

rumor is the lower-tier will actually be the one x. microsoft will probably just rename it or something?

I highly doubt it. The key differentiation for nextgen consoles will be the cpu. It's unlikely that xbone x will be able to play the new games being made for xbox series. The difference between tiers will primarily be the gpu, which is far better suited to scaling games between low-end & high-end

jimjobob · Dec 16, 2019, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziklitschli

Not sure what's the point of an xbox now, just an inferior PC without console exclusives.

Ecosystem, game rentals, resale market, price.... There’s plenty of reasons for the console to exist.

Sasquach · Dec 17, 2019, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziklitschli

Not sure what's the point of an xbox now, just an inferior PC without console exclusives.

Its probably very similar to how the ipod touch is basically an iPhone without the phone part.

The Xbox is a gaming PC without the PC part of it.

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logical What is my purpose? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: * Posts: 22,683	Even laying it down its kind of big to fit into most entertainment systems. I dont think it will fit in the area under my TV either way. It depends on how tall/long it is. Looking at the scale of the controller next to it, its about 2 and a half controllers and that maybe be too big. Consoles have come full circle now MS said **** it we'll just re-purpose a PC and forget about trying to make custom pieces of hardware to fit in a small case. This is going to sell like hot cakes even with an inflated price. Lets see what design PS5 comes out with. I feel like the hardware is going to be similar so it comes down to which one looks better. __________________

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Nascar24 EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BOINGGGGGGGG! Posts: 14,356	They really shouldn’t go higher then $499 or it’s going to be a hard sell for the masses.

Dec 14, 2019, 01:11 PM	#23
LordHawkwind Harbinger of Doom Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,257	Agree it looks like a PC and that's fine by me. My Xbone X stands near my TV so I'm not bothered about the size of the thing. Will have to see what the noise level is like given the components inside but it looks OK to me. Regarding price Phil Spencer has already admitted that it was a mistake last time around to introduce the Xbone X at $£499 and has committed to releasing this console at a better price point. I think to sell well and get traction it needs to sell for $£400 otherwise it's going to struggle. MS still want to be the No 1 console player so they are aware that price is a big issue with consumers. Remember MS make probably more money on game sales so they need to have the console in gamer's hands from day one if it's going to be successful. If they price it at $£600+ it's dead on arrival and their game sales will fall off a cliff. Also don't forget the game pass subscriptions they already have they don't want to start hemorrhaging those as most likely they won't get them back. If it launches at £400 I'm all over it but if it launches at a higher price point no thanks. __________________ Ryzen 7 3800X, ASUS Prime X470 Pro, KFA2 RTX 3090 SG, 16GB Crucial DDR4 LPX 3000 Ram, iiyama G-Master GB3466WQSU 3440x1440 freesync 144hz, 250gb Samsung SSD, 750mb Seagate SSHD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda H/D, 1 TB Samsung H/D, 850w PSU, Windows 10

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