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Old Dec 12, 2020, 06:36 PM   #1141
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Idle, 30-something C with spikes when one core decides to boost to 4.9ghz.

Load, 75-79c when running the realbench stress test for a couple of hours.

My all core clock seems to be 4.375ghz during tasks like running the realbench stress test for 4-ish hours, 4.4xghz during shorter tasks.

R20 score, 8655 and 629.
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Image Editing: 221159
Time: 24.0912

Encoding: 355026
Time: 15.0073

OpenCL: 471705
KSamples/sec: 86810

Heavy Multitasking: 325396
Time: 23.4544


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All of this is just with PBO on and my not so great memory using their xmp [email protected], no real memory tuning.


Oh, and the voltage can be anywhere from 1.44 to 1.49x during loads, seems to depend on what it is doing.

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Old Dec 12, 2020, 08:29 PM   #1142
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Thanks. Fresh windows?
Your scores are consistently higher than mine. Are you running water cooling or AIO?

Here is my real bench:

Image Editing
210,888
Time:25.2645

Encoding
359,782
Time:14.8089

OpenCL
420,537
KSamples/sec: 77401

Heavy Multitasking
308,700
Time:24.723

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324,976

Your 3090 might be helping the score. Also scored 610 in SC CR20 and 8523 in MC CR20.

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Old Dec 15, 2020, 01:49 AM   #1143
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I've checked, Zen 3 runs hot, I posted an article about it somewhere in this thread which absolutely no one payed attention too, checked what others are at on idle as well, I also have way to many tray apps running but that probably only accounts for 5c if that. Its the sudden jump with the EPIC launcher after the latest BIOS is what drew my attention. It wasn't doing that on the BIOS before. Although this is the first BIOS that I noticed that has the new PBO2 in it and I notice it acting differently compared to the others. Not bothered at all by the 51c Idle based on what I have read and seen about Zen 3.
Zen 2 had a problem about the cores being too aggressive to clock up for very minor load, and it sounds to me like it is still the case for Zen 3.

Assuming that is the issue, one thing you can do is change to Power Saver power plan, which makes it so the CPU is less aggressive about clocking up, and then you can swap back to balanced when you actually need more performance. If you use Power Plan Switcher, it's easy to change when needed.

At least for me, the vast majority of time I am using my computer, I simply don't need performance (browsing the web, watching videos, office work, e-mail, etc.), so that was my solution.

Also having an Intel system, I will say that Intel does seem to offer better idle power management than AMD does, despite having poorer efficiency under load.
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Intel seems to offer everything better (software, heat, power plan, voltage, auto boost algorithm etc.) than AMD except for these recent hardware wins with MC processing (3000 and 5000 series) and single core processing on 5000 series.
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Intel seems to offer everything better (software, heat, power plan, voltage, auto boost algorithm etc.) than AMD except for these recent hardware wins with MC processing (3000 and 5000 series) and single core processing on 5000 series.

Intel skylake 14++ node is old and matured.RKL looks to me the limit physically of the 14nm.They had to cut 2 cores to get better performance and still keep the tdp.Ryzen is 3 years old only even if there are a couple of generations out..They are still learning and polishing even for 5000 series.

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Intel skylake 14++ node is old and matured.RKL looks to me the limit physically of the 14nm.They had to cut 2 cores to get better performance and still keep the tdp.Ryzen is 3 years old only even if there are a couple of generations out..They are still learning and polishing even for 5000 series.

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Was great while it lasted. Not falling for these stupid benches again. Fool me twice and all that.
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https://twitter.com/davideneco25320/...36533637296129

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And warhol 5.5 Ghz = 760+ on CPUZ
Not bad... Looks like RKL comeback wont last that long.

I just hope its still on am4.
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AM4 is dead it needs to die please just let it die. They supported it for 4 years and 4 cpus generations it was a great run but let us please move on.

DDR5 + PCIe5 + USB4.0 are coming and AM4 does not have the pincount to handle the bandwidth of them.
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Sounds like AM5 will be late
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AM4 is dead it needs to die please just let it die. They supported it for 4 years and 4 cpus generations it was a great run but let us please move on.

DDR5 + PCIe5 + USB4.0 are coming and AM4 does not have the pincount to handle the bandwidth of them.
I just hope this extension might help with one cpu upgrade past ryzen 3k for my x370. But yeah the next full rig is am5 for me as well.
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AM4 is dead it needs to die please just let it die. They supported it for 4 years and 4 cpus generations it was a great run but let us please move on.

DDR5 + PCIe5 + USB4.0 are coming and AM4 does not have the pincount to handle the bandwidth of them.

Let the beta testing begin again ... year 2017 revisitted ...
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Jesus Christ ! Local shop received ONE 5600 since they launched... I ordered my comp early so I could get it before the Christmas holiday. Looks like I'm **** out of luck Salesman said he doesn't expect them to drop for a long while

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AM4 is dead it needs to die please just let it die. They supported it for 4 years and 4 cpus generations it was a great run but let us please move on.

DDR5 + PCIe5 + USB4.0 are coming and AM4 does not have the pincount to handle the bandwidth of them.

I thought the same thing. Since I already just got a new 3700X and decided to skip Zen 3 and straight to Zen 4. I want to build all the new computer with AM5, PCIE5, DDR5, and and maybe big navi 2.0.
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Well at least Asrock owners of *ANY AM4* mobo will be ready once they finally get the cpu stock back up:


https://wccftech.com/asrock-amd-ryze...-motherboards/

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ASRock has released BETA BIOS support AMD Ryzen 5000 Desktop CPUs on its X370, B350 & A320 line of motherboards. The BIOS for each respective AMD 300-series chipset motherboard are now available to download over at HKEPC if you want to run your brand new Vermeer chip on an older motherboard.

AMD Ryzen 5000 Desktop CPUs Now Supported By ASRock's X370, B350 & A320 Motherboards Through BETA BIOS
According to HKEPC, ASRock has provided them BETA BIOS for a total of 16 X370, B350 and A320 motherboards. These motherboards date all the way back to 2017 when the first AMD Ryzen CPUs were launched so they are quite old but there are plenty of users who still own these boards and are running either 1st or 2nd Gen Ryzen CPUs on them. The site reports that there are no issues in terms of AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU support but full stability for the chips is not guaranteed.
Heres looking at you GB.
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RKL leaked benchmarks and specs today. 5.3GHz and approx 10% faster than 5950x in ashes
Beside Xe graphics which is actually exciting to learn about, it's not looking that good for Intel. It's looking like they are going to be slower in single threaded per clock and being flat out hammered in multicore. The fab advantage is over and it shows.
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I'm confident RKL will be the fastest gaming CPU.
I would not really bet that but I like the fire
Ashes of the Singularity is already faster on Intel, so releasing 10% lead on it is not something I would be excited about

Considering it's a variant of ice lake, the mobile version of sonny cove that Rocket lake is based off of... but on 14nm instead of 10...

It just gets trashed by AMD's mobile chips
https://www.notebookcheck.net/i7-106....247596.0.html

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Didn’t you get yours as well? Maybe update system specs?
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i did, the spec is my main pc/everyday gaming, etc
VR/Gaming one is the one with the 5900x and 3080
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yeah I'm still rocking that machine with rx6800, so I just kind of left it since its the one I'm on the most
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