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Old Nov 27, 2003, 07:46 AM   #1
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Angry RAGE! At hardware companies.....

Otay, I bought a brand new retail Asus 9800xt/tvd, nice right? Came with a nice little thing from ATI for a free copy of HL2, yummy. I paid over 500US for the card, and wanted the hardware, the game was a happy thing that I didn't know about. What really gripes my @ss is the requirements from ATI to get the game when it comes out. Anybody looked at that yet?
here's the link: http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html
Read the BS you have to do. Copies of the promotion, portions of the box with the upc code "original only" blah blah....the frickin box was the first thing I chucked because of the size of it.
That really [email protected] me off, I'll just buy the freekin game when it comes out.
So much for the ATI promotions, they can blow me.
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 08:01 AM   #2
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lol, so you didnt read the terms and conditions, threw the box away, and so decided to have a whinge about it here.. do you feel better yet??
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 09:47 AM   #3
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Well I would have automatically thought that I would need some form of proof that I bought the XT to retrieve my game. Please understand Im not bashing or flaming you but u just need to think about that kinda stuff first in the future. Anytime I have ever gotten per say a rebate or promo thing threw a purchase the bar code is always used in retrieving the item. I'm sorry you chucked it =( I save all my boxes LOL I still have my voodoo 2 and 3 boxes LOL along with my 8500 box. I even have all the boxes my games came in. I'm a psycho =P
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stoooopid strikes again. oh, that's right ati does not need proof that you actually bought the card right?

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Otay, I bought a brand new retail Asus 9800xt/tvd, nice right? Came with a nice little thing from ATI for a free copy of HL2, yummy. I paid over 500US for the card, and wanted the hardware, the game was a happy thing that I didn't know about. What really gripes my @ss is the requirements from ATI to get the game when it comes out. Anybody looked at that yet?
here's the link: http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html
Read the BS you have to do. Copies of the promotion, portions of the box with the upc code "original only" blah blah....the frickin box was the first thing I chucked because of the size of it.
That really [email protected] me off, I'll just buy the freekin game when it comes out.
So much for the ATI promotions, they can blow me.
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 12:57 PM   #5
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I keep all my boxes i buy for god knows what reason. oh well.
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 01:35 PM   #7
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So you think that is ATI 's fault?
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Not ATi's fault, but sheesh, give the guy a break everyone! It is Thanksgiving after all!

I recommend contacting ATi directly. You may be able to prove ownership in some other fashion that will satisfy their requirements. Canadians aren't completely unreasonable.
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 04:45 PM   #9
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If you kept your invoice for the goods this should be more than good enough to prove ur entitled to HL2 for free, send ATI and e-mail and i'm sure they can sort you something out
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That sucks

But really, you should have known better.

Mark this one up to experience, and be glad it only cost you +-$50
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hehe, thats funny. But I think if you explained it to asus/valve and sort out some proof of purchase they should help you out....nut its funny anywaze
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im sorry for you, but hey you should know better.
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Ima go through his trash and get that UPC...another mans trash is another mans treasure.
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I dont think that I have ever seen a rebate/special offer that didnt require the original upc code.
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I don't blame him, Hell he's got the ticket! Whats the deal with all of the extra crap?
You know what the deal is? Company's have been doing it for years, and it looks like ATI is no better. They say you have to have this, that and the other in hopes that you will lose some thing and then they don't have to honer it.
It used to real bad with rebates and stuff like that.
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You can still download HL2 off Steam can't you? I mean they don't require a UPC code and receipt to get HL2 off it?
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So what about us non-US/Canada folk? I assume I'll have to post all that to America and get it sent back.
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I don't blame him, Hell he's got the ticket! Whats the deal with all of the extra crap?
You know what the deal is? Company's have been doing it for years, and it looks like ATI is no better. They say you have to have this, that and the other in hopes that you will lose some thing and then they don't have to honer it.
It used to real bad with rebates and stuff like that.
Unfortunately, we live in a day and age where honesty isn't the basis for overall conduct. Companies have to find a way to ensure that they're not giving away the promotionals to those who didn't pay for it. Cutting UPC codes is the most common and relatively fraud-free ways of accomplishing that. While I am sure that the fact that a percentage of buyers won't follow through on the rebate process is factored into the marketing plan, I'm not so jaded as to assume that the company is "hoping" it happens. Come on, ATi is in the business of meeting customer needs. Alienating said customers doesn't go far toward that goal.
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Otay, I bought a brand new retail Asus 9800xt/tvd, nice right? Came with a nice little thing from ATI for a free copy of HL2, yummy. I paid over 500US for the card, and wanted the hardware, the game was a happy thing that I didn't know about. What really gripes my @ss is the requirements from ATI to get the game when it comes out. Anybody looked at that yet?
here's the link: http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html
Read the BS you have to do. Copies of the promotion, portions of the box with the upc code "original only" blah blah....the frickin box was the first thing I chucked because of the size of it.
That really [email protected]s me off, I'll just buy the freekin game when it comes out.
So much for the ATI promotions, they can blow me.
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You should be able to download it through STEAM free of charge, no UPC required, just your HL2 Voucher (which hopefully you did not throw away).

http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/steam.html

I think the whole thing has been handled pretty well by ATI. The decision to delay the release of HL2 was beyond their control, so they've gone to extraordinary lengths to keep their promise of offering HL2 with their cards. In fact, you even get the whole HL-1 series until HL2 comes out, so you can't blame them.

Shipping and handling is a huge cost, and it is unrealistic to expect a copy of the game shipped to everyone. I think the download option is a very fair way to offer the game for "free" without breaking their promise.
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Im sorry, but I think the guy is absolutely right. You guys who are mindlessly doing your little fanboy rips on him are flat out of line.

HL2 in the box should be a simple process. No one reads the fine print. You jerks who are ripping him dont even have the game or the card yourselves. If BS for you to even be opening your mounths on the Subject.

If i was this guy i would expect a simple coupon for the game or a registration code for a Steam Download like the ATi 9800XT has. Not this bunch of Fine print you need the box Bull****.
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Otay, I bought a brand new retail Asus 9800xt/tvd, nice right? Came with a nice little thing from ATI for a free copy of HL2, yummy. I paid over 500US for the card, and wanted the hardware, the game was a happy thing that I didn't know about. What really gripes my @ss is the requirements from ATI to get the game when it comes out. Anybody looked at that yet?
here's the link: http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html
Read the BS you have to do. Copies of the promotion, portions of the box with the upc code "original only" blah blah....the frickin box was the first thing I chucked because of the size of it.
That really [email protected] me off, I'll just buy the freekin game when it comes out.
So much for the ATI promotions, they can blow me.
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one thing though, it is asus you should be mad at. Ati makes the chip. Asus is the one that sold you the bill of goods.
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If they made it so that the coupon was enough there would be people stealing the coupons or just copying the codes.

Rebate programs require upc codes and receipts for a reason.
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i NEVER liked HL anyways...when i get my 9800 pro i'll throw away my HL2 coupon...
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Reminds me of something that happened to my mom. She works for the school district here and they decided to get about 5 pdas for some employees. Each had a rebate of $50 dollars. I think one of her duties was treasurer, so she was giving the reciepts and rebate forms to get them sent out.

I was with her at home and I asked where the boxes where as she pulled out the stuff. She said why and I told her any kind of rebate you usually need the bar code off the box. So she was kind of upset that she couldn't get this done and found that the employees were given the boxes and many of them already thrown them away. So they lost a bit of money on their already tight budget.

For my videocard, and mobos, I keep the boxes proudly on display. And if I throw them away, it's usually after a couple months. I'm sure there's a way to prove you bought the card to get the game. And just using the invoice I wouldn't think would be the answer since that is usually part of the process to begin with.

And on the whole thing about having to cut the box upc off to do a rebate/special promotion in hopes you lose it or something is wrong. Besides keeping the fraud down, I think the main reason you need to cut the boxes code off is so that it can't be returned to the store after your do the rebate. Once the box upc is off you can't return it anymore. If you didn't need to do anything with the box, you could just buy things, send the reciept and rebate form and get money and just return the product.
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I BURN MY VIDEO CARD BOXES IN HELL MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH :devil:!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Im sorry, but I think the guy is absolutely right. You guys who are mindlessly doing your little fanboy rips on him are flat out of line.

HL2 in the box should be a simple process. No one reads the fine print. You jerks who are ripping him dont even have the game or the card yourselves. If BS for you to even be opening your mounths on the Subject.

If i was this guy i would expect a simple coupon for the game or a registration code for a Steam Download like the ATi 9800XT has. Not this bunch of Fine print you need the box Bull****.
You've been around here a lot longer than I have and know that not everybody is actually honest around here. How many posts have you read where people put the old 8500 in the 9700 box and return it and get the money back.

It's all about security and ensuring that people that deserve to get the goods get them and nothing more. If all that was required was the slip of paper, those would be counterfeited in an instant (unless ATI has somebody doing manual accounting for all copies of HL2 going out against the paper coupons.) not likely though.

It seems like a pain but having the multiple forms of validation ensures ATI doesn't get ripped off giving out free copies of HL2 to less than honest people. It's a sad world we live in but we as a species made it this way.

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It seems like a pain but having the multiple forms of validation ensures ATI doesn't get ripped off giving out free copies of HL2 to less than honest people. It's a sad world we live in but we as a species made it this way.
Yea, sadly people confuse "want" with need and often talk themselves into doing any number of stupid and dishonest things. It sucks that guy the threw out his box, but seriously.. I've never seen a rebate deal that didn't want a UPC code or like 10 copies of the receipt from the store where you bought the product.

Don't get mad at the company for fulfiling its responcibility to investors by not throwing away money. Blame the worthless thieves who will do anything or justify anything to get something they didn't earn for free.

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