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Old Nov 10, 2021, 12:06 PM   #361
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I don't think a 5 or 6 slot air cooler will do 500+ watts

the highest end cards are going to take a full waterblock or a 3 fan AIO cooler with a thick rad like a Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta


https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cool...360mm-radiator

or maybe a 420mm
https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cool...420mm-radiator


my 560mm
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cooled two gtx 980's and the cpu fine for two weeks without fans when i forgot to plug them back in once
Hmm the price on that 560mm isnt as bad as I thought it would be. Huge and think it should be able to handle a lot.
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Old Nov 10, 2021, 12:56 PM   #362
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Ice Giant is pretty much one of the best coolers for threadripper tho and has a high watts cooling capacity. I think the copper version will do a lot better on smaller packages.

I mean if the all aluminium model can handle 500w easy the copper one might be able to go a bit further.

https://www.icegiantcooling.com/blog
The only reason it's one of the best for TRX is because most coolers do not have mounting for it..

The cooler gets outclassed by most 360mm AIOs on the market and in terms of performance/noise, it's completely outclassed .. not even remotely competitive.
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Lol, I agree. You should check out Optimus, bill. Made in USA out of Chicago. Best performing blocks on the market right now.. beats the Foundation beats the Heatkiller IV by 2-3c, and their GPU blocks are miles ahead of anyone else on the market. Pricey, but top performance.

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Lol, I agree. You should check out Optimus, bill. Made in USA out of Chicago. Best performing blocks on the market right now.. beats the Foundation beats the Heatkiller IV by 2-3c, and their GPU blocks are miles ahead of anyone else on the market. Pricey, but top performance.

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they look good

but acrylic tops on video cards at 3090 prices
and what no AMD cards ?

not since i lost two ati 4870's in cfx due to acrylic tops cracking around their bolts
600 bucks out the window

it's acetal or full copper only for me on blocks


and the full copper Heatkiller IV pro is a deadly weapon if you throw it at someone
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they look good

but acrylic tops on video cards at 3090 prices
and what no AMD cards ?

not since i lost two ati 4870's in cfx due to acrylic tops cracking around their bolts
600 bucks out the window
They're pretty small - still a new start-up company. They've been pummeled by COVID which really slowed them down. They haven't said much about making blocks for AMD GPUs, but let's be honest .. there's way more customers looking for NV blocks, so kind of have to prioritize the larger market as a small company.

The acrylic they use is not the cheapo stuff you see from Alphacool and other companies. Apparently this acrylic is extremely heavy-duty. I'm also a fan of Acetal tops (and I also prefer a blacked-out design rather than RGB-puke-bling or seeing the fluid in the block) but hopefully down the road we see more options.

They just moved to a new Cerakote finish rather than anodized Nickel - apparently it's better for heat transfer and removes the chance of nickel flaking.

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it's acetal or full copper only for me on blocks


and the full copper Heatkiller IV pro is a deadly weapon if you throw it at someone
yeah, the Heatkiller IV Pro is a monster! I love mine .. runs phenomenal on my 10900K mounted direct-die. They said they have plans for a new model (Heatkiller V) for 2022 .. hoping we see that as well. I'll need a new block for the Intel X299 successor
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They're pretty small - still a new start-up company. They've been pummeled by COVID which really slowed them down. They haven't said much about making blocks for AMD GPUs, but let's be honest .. there's way more customers looking for NV blocks, so kind of have to prioritize the larger market as a small company.

The acrylic they use is not the cheapo stuff you see from Alphacool and other companies. Apparently this acrylic is extremely heavy-duty. I'm also a fan of Acetal tops (and I also prefer a blacked-out design rather than RGB-puke-bling or seeing the fluid in the block) but hopefully down the road we see more options.

They just moved to a new Cerakote finish rather than anodized Nickel - apparently it's better for heat transfer and removes the chance of nickel flaking.



yeah, the Heatkiller IV Pro is a monster! I love mine .. runs phenomenal on my 10900K mounted direct-die. They said they have plans for a new model (Heatkiller V) for 2022 .. hoping we see that as well. I'll need a new block for the Intel X299 successor
well i marked them and may well give them a try if they make a block for RDNA 3 that is first this time with me


and may well skip lovelace along with ampere depends on prices
not going to drop 4k on two cards that i can only use one at a time
having both is not that big of deal without SLI/CFX

i do like they are made here
my AM4 block is a all copper EK and it has been fine
and my 2080 ti Strix just doesn't need it it's fine on air

but i do think RDNA 3 will need water .
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Everything needs water

I didn't build this custom loop for nothing!!!
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Everything needs water

I didn't build this custom loop for nothing!!!
i got 5k+ in water crap around here only using about a third of it

my case has a pump header and reservoir combo for 6 D5 pumps that i made make out 9 feet 1 1/4 inch id copper hevey wall pipe i had left over from a A/c job
all touching the case aluminum and tranfering heat to the case
was how i realized my fans were off the case was warm to the touch

all i care about is i can't hear it at all
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5k in water cooling damn you guys are hardcore.

I hope those msrp's stick...
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Be cool if they go back to hbm I read they arent that much more expensive than GDDR6x.

Samsung seen as developing next gen gddr tho in gddr6+ and gddr7.

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There's also GDDR7 which is currently on the graphics DRAM roadmap and is expected to offer up to 32 Gbps transfer speeds along with a real-time error protection technology. A GDDR7 memory sub-system across a 256-bit wide bus interface at 32 Gbps transfer speeds will offer 1 TB/s of total bandwidth. That's 1.5 TB/s with a 384-bit bus interface and up to 2 TB/s on a 512-bit system. This is just insane amounts of bandwidth for a GDDR standard.
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not a big deal maybe a little higher price will stop the scalper from buying as many as they won't want to get stuck with a higher cost cards with like 6 to 8 months till the 7800

at this point i wouldn't buy at 15% off MSRP let alone over pay ..just too late .

but it's not a good sign for the next gen prices
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Well isnt it 10% wholesale to the aib's? Doesnt sound too bad the real problem is the 2x and 3x msrp we are seeing.
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