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Old Jun 25, 2022, 05:36 PM   #781
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You know how I feel about these leakers, Bill. They throw poop at a wall repeatedly.

Maybe flagship AIB cards will allow 800w power limit BIOS, but I really don't see the Founders Edition or reference design offering anything nearly that high.
who buys reference

i think my last reference design was two 4890's that i put waterblocks on

after that blocks for aftermarket cards got more common
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Old Jun 25, 2022, 06:38 PM   #782
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i think my last reference design was two 4890's that i put waterblocks on

after that blocks for aftermarket cards got more common
Hah! You know the Founders Edition on the 3080/3080TI/3090 all have higher quality VRM and MOSFETs than the EVGA FTW3? They're built solid. Reference design is questionable.. that aims more at the Zotac, PNY, Gigabyte lower-end models though.

I really like the FE, they are built well and block availability is excellent .. the problem is the lower power limit for me. If I felt like dealing with shunt modding, I'd jump on one. The FE typically (at least with Ampere) have very good silicon quality on average. I'd say they're better binned than FTW3 or STRIX cards, but that's just my observations.
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Old Jun 25, 2022, 06:59 PM   #783
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When I read rumors of the extreme power numbers -- sku's similar to Evga's Kingpin edition entered my mind. Many times rumor mongering conflate things and why it is more entertaining than anything else. It is somewhat concerning that the power requirements may be getting higher but it needs the performance context, too.


Not a fan of rumors based on a lot of them are wrong, missing overall context, and throw so many rumors so they can spin how right they are. If Nvidia can deliver dramatic performance gains then the wattage trade-of may be worth it for many enthusiasts.
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I went with the Founders Edition on the 3090 and I don't regret it. It's the best card I've ever owned in terms of build quality, aesthetics and on the mark engineering. The only card I even considered over it was the ASUS high end. In the end ASUS offered a quiet Bios mode that ran slower than the FE and a full tilt mode that was more noisy and a little faster.

The FE struck the perfect balance between the two which was perfect for me. Raise the power limit and it will auto overclock itself for an extra 5FPS. After that, you need to push 100 more watts through it for 2FPS so it's pointless to go further in my book. The FE was the optimal design that squeezed all of the performance available at quiet operation levels with excellent quality. At 400 watts my GPU tops out at 62C and the fans top out at 60% even in the most demanding games.

I will be looking for the founder's edition first and foremost on the next card that I buy as well.
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I think October will be launch date, not for all models perhaps.
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Feels like MLID is giving himself an out by claiming a paper launch, if the demand is high enough, anything can appear as a paper launch.
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now if AMD comes thru and beats them to release
and if RDNA is fast enough you may see a lot longer delay

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Unless something catastrophic occurs, 4090 all the way. Just need a new case so I can add a 3rd radiator to the loop
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But you have XL. You can add 3 rads in it.
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But you have XL. You can add 3 rads in it.
Ideally, you don't want all of your intake air being from the rads, which is what I would have to do if I added a third in the XL. I'm waiting for some new cases to come out, like the Lian Li V3000.

I have been considering the Phanteks. I'm bored of the 011 XL
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It is a terrible case imo. My Phanteks was much better. Oh well. Learnt my lesson.

Maybe next time I get a putter I will build in my P500A again instead of the Lian Li Evo.
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It has it's issues for sure, but I wouldn't class it as terrible. It's certainly a better case for watercooling.

The issue I have with Phanteks cases is that the only one I'd truly build in is the Elite, and it's too expensive. I have considered going with an external radiator (MORA3) but that opens up other annoyances.

We shall see. Really hoping the Lian Li V3000 turns out to be great
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Nothing like having the maid vacuum over the radiator lying outside the computer to get rid of dust.
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AKA a normal fabulous NVidia paper launch
oh 3000 reviewers will get cards to tear up and turn into slag overclocking and 10 will go to Newegg
won't see real stock and MSRP to Q1

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It might be a half-truth, if cards like the 4070/60 launches in December, then his claim is kind of right as those are sold in higher volumes than the flagship cards.
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