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Old Apr 11, 2021, 03:15 PM   #61
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Well with the scarcity of video cards you can put those RGB lights to good use elsewhere.

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Old Apr 13, 2021, 09:07 AM   #62
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Well with the scarcity of video cards you can put those RGB lights to good use elsewhere.

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Wasn't that the OG use of Neon?
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The vega56 custom cards costs around 800$ on second hand market.I can sell my vega56 reference for more than the price i bought it now.
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Nvidia expects GPU shortage to continue 'for much of this year'

It's not looking good for the GPU market in 2021.

While we were reading up on Nvidia's Grace CPU and datacentre DGUs yesterday, Nvidia was hosting an investor day for its shareholders. During which the company's top brass spoke a little on the current GPU shortage—the bane of many PC builders' lives at current—and how long the company thinks this may go on for. Sadly it's not looking up for the entirety of 2021, as Nvidia revises its outlook once again.

"Overall demand remains very strong and continues to exceed supply while our channel inventories remain quite lean," says Colette Kress, CFO of Nvidia in a blog post. "We expect demand to continue to exceed supply for much of this year. We believe we will have sufficient supply to support sequential growth beyond Q1."

Kress had previously relayed a message of a lean channel inventory lasting throughout Q1, which by Nvidia's corporate calendar would have left us waiting around until May.

Well, May isn't that far off now and a return to normalcy appears to be even less likely over the course of the coming months.

Yet according to Nvidia's own figures from its Investors Day slides, Ampere's launch has been very successful. Nvidia reports that Ampere has more than doubled Turing's first six months across Steam, and has continued a strong ramp up in sales for the generation's first 18 weeks. That's perhaps not all that surprising, considering Nvidia is selling out of cards as quick as it can make them, but it does highlight how increasingly huge demand has become for GPUs in 2021.

Demand not only from gamers but cryptocurrency miners and those looking to profit from the lack of availability by selling cards for profit, too.

Acer recently spoke of component shortages easing up by the second half of 2021, which could signal a return to a stronger supply chain, following constraints in global supply largely due to the coronavirus.

AMD is also struggling to meet demand for its new RDNA 2-based RX 6000-series GPUs, and has so far kept relatively quiet on when it believes supply will return.

If Nvidia can at least maintain a steady supply throughout the year, then perhaps demand will naturally dip as the year progresses, in turn making it that little bit easier to pick up a graphics card without long waits or furious refreshing. That's my hopeful outlook, anyways, as clearly the official guidance is anything but optimistic.

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-graph...d-supply-2021/
From what I've been hearing it's actually worse than what Pcgamer is reporting and the shortage is predicted to last through 3rd quarter of 2023.
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Goddamn I'm glad I splurged a bit more for my 3080... Debated for 2 hours if I should go higher (was originally planning to go with a 3070).

Absolutely insane.
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Goddamn I'm glad I splurged a bit more for my 3080... Debated for 2 hours if I should go higher (was originally planning to go with a 3070).

Absolutely insane.
Three more weeks until my pre-built comes (3070) though I specifically requested a NON Gigabyte 3070 as those have been having a frightening amount of problems.
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If this bitcoin BS doesn't end soon.. Why can't AMD for example re-spin say the Vega64 series on 12nm, tweak it for bitcoin and bam.. use up some of GlobalFoundries 12nm line and ease some strain on the gaming GPUs?
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One potential reason is because bitcoin is not the main reason for the shortages.


But I too am glad I splurged early on my 3080. Got it at MSRP, and have been able to enjoy it for months now.
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And the news just keeps getting worse it seems. Late 2022 is the current estimate before things begin to "normalize".
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Well, looks like the shortage and concern from people in power over supply chain issues is finally starting to bear a little fruit.


https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/..._arizona_fabs/

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Now the manufacturing giant is planning to open up to five more in Arizona, according to Reuters, which heard from unnamed sources. CEO C.C. Wei hinted his corporation was increasing its collection of production plants to boost chip output during an earnings call in mid-April.

“We have acquired land and started the construction of new facilities," he said [PDF]. "TSMC expects to invest about $100bn through the next three years to increase capacity to support the manufacturing and R&D of leading edge and specialty technologies."

The biz also hopes to begin risk production of 4nm and 3nm chips this year, and achieve volume output in the second half of next year. The Register has asked TSMC for comment on today's report.

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Risk production is just to start getting things in order for later(Ironing out the kinks). That place won't start making retail production for maybe 1-2yrs but more likely 3yrs out.. Still, it's good because the world got royally screwed by it all being so centralized.
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Good for the future in theory yes, but for the current situation it doesn't do a thing. Looks like the current prediction of 4th quarter 2022 may even be a bit early.
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Holy hell, the 3070 is pushing nearly $2k now. Ebay has it averaging $1650-$1700!

When I bought my pre-built two months ago, it was going for nearly $1500 average so it's jumped by around $200 since then in price! This is complete madness, scalpers keep jacking the prices up and people (mostly miners) are the ones encouraging them by buying from them.
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That's just crazy.
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Same here on average price of all cards have gone up by 1000 dirhams which is about 250 bucks. A 3060 costs 1200$ now.
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it's already beyond ridiculous, desperate gamers still fueling this mess. Terrible all around.
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I was on discord playing TD2 a few weeks back and there was a guy on there who literally paid like $1200 for a 3060ti. This was not to mine with but to game with strictly.

It's not just miners willing to throw money at scalpers out of desperation.

Seen the 6800xt is pushing $1700 now and the 6900xt well over $2000. I paid about $1300 for my asrock phantom several months ago which was expensive at the time. It now seems I got a bargain on it. lol
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I should have kept that 3090 FE from Best Buy.......
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I sold my 3090 FE, which I got at MSRP, to a friend for my cost.

No regrets. He's enjoyed the heck out of it.
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So you both just want to be part of the problem.. ok i see how it is.
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it's already beyond ridiculous, desperate gamers still fueling this mess. Terrible all around.

I do feel that GPU's are more like fuel for car for some segment of population ... Look what the lack of fuel in US made people do out of desperation ... Putting gasoline in plastic bags . How far and low can one go out of desperation ?



Even in my "poor" coutry i never saw something like this.In my country there is no lack of fuel for cars.Before the pandemy the train for big consumerism was driving very fast.Now this "train" of consumerism crashed abruptly.
So people still buying overpriced goods is not something terribly abnormal...How quickly can a smoker can give up smoking ?
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The issue for me is that the 3080Ti AIBs will be so close to the 3090 FE price that I should have kept it.
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oh i thought you were gonna resell it on ebay for a dirty sanchez profit
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Old May 21, 2021, 10:43 AM   #89
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Even in my "poor" coutry i never saw something like this.In my country there is no lack of fuel for cars.Before the pandemy the train for big consumerism was driving very fast.Now this "train" of consumerism crashed abruptly.
So people still buying overpriced goods is not something terribly abnormal...How quickly can a smoker can give up smoking ?
dude people only did that because they shut down the southern us pipeline for a russian hacking attempt. It had nothing to do with covid or the pandemic lol.
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Old May 21, 2021, 10:53 AM   #90
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Glad I got my 2080ti when I did. It was a steep $1100 when I bought it 2 years ago, but now they're going for over $2000 if you can even find them. Judging by most benchmarks, a 3080 or 3090 would be a barely noticeable improvement over my 2080ti at 1440p so I'll just stick with what I have and just pray it doesn't crap out on me anytime soon.
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