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Old Mar 6, 2021, 07:56 AM   #1
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To update my gaming only rig. Looking for bang for the buck here, no $300 mobos.

Intel 11th gen looks to be a flop so any good combos for 10th gen? I have access to MicroCenter, what would Rage advice?

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Honestly, since you already have an 8086K, if I were you I'd just wait another year before upgrading. You're not going to see much difference in most games. If you wait you can get onboard with a DDR5 platform.

If you're going to upgrade I definitely wouldn't get an 8 core processor as that will be a negligible improvement--not even worth the hassle of even upgrading, IMO.

I'd look at a 10900F, or a 10850K. The giving up the K for an F results in a pretty cost savings, and although the F can't be overclocked my understanding is you can still run it with MCE. Since there's so little left in these CPUs anyway you're not giving up much by forgoing the K.

I'd probably also look at saving money by going with a solid Z490 board instead of a Z590. A lot of Z490 boards support PCI-E 4.0 for the GPU, but it doesn't matter anyway since 10000 series CPUs don't support it. And either way there's no real upgrade path, so I don't see much to be gained by going with Z590.

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What Nagorak said. I think the F series scores slightly lower than the K in some benchmarks, but that wouldn't be noticeable for the most part. They also only use 95W instead of the K's 125Ws, if that's important to you.

Are your games CPU-bound? I'm in a similar boat (i7-7700K here) but gaming at 1440p with my 2080ti would only have visible benefits in a small number of games. Most everything I play is as smooth as KAC's butt.

My money isn't burning a hole in my pocket right now, so I'm waiting another year or so.
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I agree, I'd wait another year and see where things are at that point.
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You made fun of me for such a long while and also followed most of my reviews with clear benches. I am not sure why you would think anything has changed since November to warrant a purchase. If you are gaming, it is completely pointless to upgrade your CPU/Mobo. You can get some benefit by throwing in expensive 4000 DDR4 memory or grabbing a 3090. Another option would be to go 32 GB ram. Everything else is like 2-5 FPS deltas so if $300 is worth that much performance then sure go ahead and purchase.
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You know, if the rumors are true the next AMD release looks nice. PCIe 5.0 and DDR5..

Plus they have been on par if not a bit ahead of Intel. The next gen they just might overtake them solidly in all categories.
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I hear you guys.....

I have a feeling I'm gonna pull a KAC with a cheap 10700K and an MSI Tomahawk z490 in the next couple of months.......
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Oh, ok... I'll take 2 then.

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So, I'm in the same boat as the other guys. At this point, I'd wait.

The next generation stuff looks WAY cooler anyway.
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Unless you get a good deal on a 10900K (wouldn't touch the 10850K or 10900F - these are defective cores that didn't make the cut for the 10900K) I would just wait.

Alder Lake will be the platform worth moving to, but it will be expensive.

I'm considering waiting for the X299 replacement and getting off the mainstream platforms all together unless they start giving us more PCI-E lanes.
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Unless you get a good deal on a 10900K (wouldn't touch the 10850K or 10900F - these are defective cores that didn't make the cut for the 10900K) I would just wait.

Alder Lake will be the platform worth moving to, but it will be expensive.

I'm considering waiting for the X299 replacement and getting off the mainstream platforms all together unless they start giving us more PCI-E lanes.
So 10 core is the way to go, forget 8. I could get it for $370 from Best Buy after they price match MC and I have some BB cash. Good enough price to be tempting?

What about mobo? Z490? What's a decent one that would let me do all core 5.3?

EDIT: Looking to get resizable BAR support. That can make a difference in some current and future games. Also, CPU scaling on something like Cyberpunk will benefit from my 8086K to even an 8 core 10th gen CPU.
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Congrats on the new build acroig. Those EVGA 3080's come with an anti-sag bracket? I would definitely use it.

About using only one of the CPU power connectors, you might be OK with just one for normal usage but at some point you may run into problems. The motherboard manual should recommend connecting both.

We recently had some RMAs come back at my job for that very reason. Customers selected a cheaper power supply that didn't have enough CPU/PCI-E connectors and production department shipped it out with only one connected. Customers complained about BSOD and system randomly shutting down during heavy load. When we got the systems back we tested with a PSU with both connectors and it worked fine under stress testing.

We have since updated our website to prevent any configurations to go out without both being connected.

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Congrats on the new build acroig. Those EVGA 3080's come with an anti-sag bracket? I would definitely use it.

About using only one of the CPU power connectors, you might be OK with just one for normal usage but at some point you may run into problems. The motherboard manual should recommend connecting both.
The mobo has the reinforced PCIe slot, card did come with a bracket but good only for a specific mobo, I think.

If you look at the link I posted above I found out the the second 4 CPU power cable splits into two and I added in after the pics were taken.
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Ahh, you should be good then.

Also I did not realize yours has 1x 8-pin ATX 12V power connector and 1x 4-pin. The motherboards we were having issues with at my job had 2x 8-pin.
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Except for the power cable issue all went pretty well.
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Looks like it’s time to buy a $50 power cable from Corsair!
Ah, no?

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/ar...4-pin-CPU-port

I have it, it's installed.
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Ah, last we talked you didnt.👍
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Ah, last we talked you didnt.👍
I know, I used this thing called Google and my answer was given to me. Amazing!!
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