Ryzen 5000 and beyond - Page 62

Nagorak · Jul 28, 2022, 09:52 AM

I think it kind of makes sense to keep AM4 around as a DDR4 platform and then make the break to DDR5 on AM5. We'll see if they do it or not though.

Mangler · Jul 28, 2022, 01:13 PM

It feels like something like a 3d-cache version of the 5900/50 would be enough to extend the life of am4 for a year or two.

KAC · Jul 28, 2022, 03:42 PM

I personally think the 5900X already is doing well. It is pushing frames on all gaming tasks and the 12900K supremacy on some specific productivity flows is only a few seconds difference. During that time a nerd could probably rub one out and not notice a difference.

pax · Jul 29, 2022, 12:07 PM

Userbench leak of 7600X

https://twitter.com/harukaze5719/sta...53187984490496

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/54237488

ST

7600x 243

5600x 156

12900k 200

53% faster than a 5600x... not bad.

**acroig** · Jul 29, 2022, 02:01 PM

Most impressive.

pax · Jul 30, 2022, 08:30 PM

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/...22797640421376

Quote:

Hardware Unboxed
@HardwareUnboxed
Just when you think; 'okay they've hit rock bottom, time to grow up and repair the damage'
@UserBenchmark
finds a new low. It's actually impressive at this point and incredibly funny. Enjoy this try not to laugh challenge...

Userbenchmark having a meltdown over the score...

pax · Jul 31, 2022, 09:04 PM

They had that part running at max 4.95 ghz with story that zen 4 clocks to 6 ghz... so theres room for even more perf there:

https://twitter.com/Kepler_L2/status...81638991548416

0091/2 · Jul 31, 2022, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

They had that part running at max 4.95 ghz with story that zen 4 clocks to 6 ghz... so theres room for even more perf there:

https://twitter.com/Kepler_L2/status...81638991548416

If it can run 6ghz as daily usage would AMD be first to do it?

pax · Aug 1, 2022, 09:02 PM

I think we may see non LN2 ocing do 6 ghz. Stock probably less... Probably full loop to cool it but still. AMD seems to be going for clocks this go around and less IPC.

That would be huge.

Sasquach · Aug 2, 2022, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

You have to wait and see what Intel and AMD bring to the table in Q4 this year. You've said you were going back to Intel a while back, no?

KAC says alot of things

pax · Aug 2, 2022, 08:18 PM

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...232-layer-nand

Quote:

AMD Ryzen 7000 Demoed With Phison PCIe 5.0 SSD and Micron's 232-Layer NAND

In the first sighting on a Ryzen 7000 system outside of AMD's own demos, Phison today showed off its PCIe 5.0 SSD controller dishing out slightly more than 10 GBps of throughput on a Zen 4-powered system at the 2022 Flash Memory Summit.

Phison has partnered with AMD and Micron for the launch of its PS5026-E26 SSD controller, more commonly known as the E26, and those drives will come to retail in September. Given that AMD has said PCIe 5.0 SSDs will be available in time for its Zen 4 launch, it appears the pieces will be in place for the Ryzen 7000 launch that's rumored to occur on September 15.

Nice... Its gonna be a fun fall with all the new HW.

0091/2 · Aug 2, 2022, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...232-layer-nand

Nice... Its gonna be a fun fall with all the new HW.

I don't think pci-e 5 ssd is going to be worth it for a lot of gamers. PCI-4 ssd barely offer any noticeable load time improvements. If they offer more than 4tb I might be interested.

pax · Aug 4, 2022, 08:42 AM

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-795...oost-170w-tdp/

Quote:

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, Ryzen 9 7900X, Ryzen 7 7700X, Ryzen 5 7600X CPU Specs Leaked: Up To 16 Zen 4 Cores, 5.7 GHz Boost, 170W TDP

Quote:

We have one more crucial piece of information that we were able to learn. According to the same sources, the AMD Ryzen 7000 Desktop CPUs based on the Zen 4 core architecture may only allow users to undervolt the chip itself.

Could still get some boost out of it...

0091/2 · Aug 4, 2022, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-795...oost-170w-tdp/

Could still get some boost out of it...

Which one of models do you have your eyes on?

pax · Aug 4, 2022, 09:27 AM

Oh Id wait for X3D versions a couple months later. But might skip this gen for the 8000's and 700 version mobos as the 5800X3D here is plenty fast. Im waiting to see how the 7000 radeon play on the PCIE3 gen mobo here first.

pax · Aug 4, 2022, 11:57 AM

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/87759...ign=newsletter

Quote:

AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPU: August 29 announcement, September 15 launch

AMD to announce Zen 4-powered Ryzen 7000 series desktop CPUs on August 29, reviews on September 13, launch on September 15.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/87759...ign=newsletter

pax · Aug 5, 2022, 10:25 AM

AMD did a presentation for upcoming mobos for X670. Didnt expect this this early:

https://event.on24.com/eventRegistra...82&mode=launch

0091/2 · Aug 5, 2022, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

AMD did a presentation for upcoming mobos for X670. Didnt expect this this early:

https://event.on24.com/eventRegistra...82&mode=launch

Those extended form factor mobo looks expensive AF. Are they going to be $700+?

pax · Aug 5, 2022, 07:04 PM

Wouldnt be surprised they didnt state any pricing... nice to see 2.5gb to 10gb nics becoming standard. Tons of USB... But these were pretty much all the high end boards.

Riptide · Aug 6, 2022, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0091/2

Those extended form factor mobo looks expensive AF. Are they going to be $700+?

That link is dead but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see $700+ boards even in standard ATX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

Wouldnt be surprised they didnt state any pricing... nice to see 2.5gb to 10gb nics becoming standard. Tons of USB... But these were pretty much all the high end boards.

Yah 1Gb NICs need to die getting wayyy long in the tooth there. Gigabit plus ISP service is getting more available and cheaper all the time. Asus even has routers out now with multiple 10Gb WAN/LAN ports too.

Shapeshifter · Aug 6, 2022, 07:03 PM

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryze...-10-zen3-cores

I guess that rumor/leak awhile back about the AM4 getting new lower end cpus was correct. I wonder if the rest of it will come true, more X3d parts.

bill dennison · Aug 6, 2022, 07:48 PM

Quote:

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X Delivers Nearly 50% More Cache Bandwidth than the 12th Gen Intel Core CPUs [Leak]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ry...ore-cpus-leak/

Quote:

AMD Ryzen 7000 CPU Specs Leak: Up to 5.7GHz Boost Clock, 80MB Cache, and 170W Power Draw

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ry...0w-power-draw/

Sasquach · Aug 6, 2022, 11:19 PM

Does anyone know if the 7000 series will have stronger GPU's onboard later on to effectively succeed the current APU lineup, or have they just decided to make them all APU's but like intel with pretty generic/weaksauce/stripped down GPU's onboard?

pax · Yesterday, 12:43 AM

Lisa Su said it would be basic gpus on all cpus to get at the oem market. APU will be a separate product. They still need apus for laptops so might as well still have them for desktops.

Napoleonic · Yesterday, 08:40 PM

So do you people here think and can compete this time? I'm worried that we're going back to monopoly way too soon

0091/2 · Yesterday, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleonic

So do you people here think and can compete this time? I'm worried that we're going back to monopoly way too soon

I think they can every release the performance gap is getting smaller to intel.
AMD will have my money if their CPU is equal to Intel and runs cooler.

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Jul 29, 2022, 12:07 PM	#1834
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	Userbench leak of 7600X https://twitter.com/harukaze5719/sta...53187984490496 https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/54237488 ST 7600x 243 5600x 156 12900k 200 53% faster than a 5600x... not bad. __________________

Jul 28, 2022, 01:13 PM	#1832
Mangler PC Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,681	It feels like something like a 3d-cache version of the 5900/50 would be enough to extend the life of am4 for a year or two.

Jul 28, 2022, 03:42 PM	#1833
KAC Whatever Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 67,074	I personally think the 5900X already is doing well. It is pushing frames on all gaming tasks and the 12900K supremacy on some specific productivity flows is only a few seconds difference. During that time a nerd could probably rub one out and not notice a difference.

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Jul 29, 2022, 02:01 PM	#1835
acroig Troll SMod Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troll Master of Manchesville Posts: 58,178	Most impressive.

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Jul 31, 2022, 09:04 PM	#1837
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	They had that part running at max 4.95 ghz with story that zen 4 clocks to 6 ghz... so theres room for even more perf there: https://twitter.com/Kepler_L2/status...81638991548416 __________________

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Aug 1, 2022, 09:02 PM	#1839
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	I think we may see non LN2 ocing do 6 ghz. Stock probably less... Probably full loop to cool it but still. AMD seems to be going for clocks this go around and less IPC. That would be huge. __________________

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Aug 4, 2022, 09:27 AM	#1845
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	Oh Id wait for X3D versions a couple months later. But might skip this gen for the 8000's and 700 version mobos as the 5800X3D here is plenty fast. Im waiting to see how the 7000 radeon play on the PCIE3 gen mobo here first. __________________

Aug 5, 2022, 10:25 AM	#1847
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	AMD did a presentation for upcoming mobos for X670. Didnt expect this this early: https://event.on24.com/eventRegistra...82&mode=launch __________________

Aug 5, 2022, 07:04 PM	#1849
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	Wouldnt be surprised they didnt state any pricing... nice to see 2.5gb to 10gb nics becoming standard. Tons of USB... But these were pretty much all the high end boards. __________________

Aug 6, 2022, 07:03 PM	#1851
Shapeshifter Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under my desk. Posts: 11,775	https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryze...-10-zen3-cores I guess that rumor/leak awhile back about the AM4 getting new lower end cpus was correct. I wonder if the rest of it will come true, more X3d parts. __________________ Quotes: Rage3d is the BEST forum!! There are alot of smart people on here!! -phexus

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Aug 6, 2022, 11:19 PM	#1853
Sasquach 2/10 will not bang Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cowtown Posts: 27,631	Does anyone know if the 7000 series will have stronger GPU's onboard later on to effectively succeed the current APU lineup, or have they just decided to make them all APU's but like intel with pretty generic/weaksauce/stripped down GPU's onboard? __________________ ------Squachbox 2022------ Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 full size aluminum chassis PC Power & Cooling Silencer Quad Blue 750watt PSU AMD Ryzen 5 2600X @ 3.6ghz Asus Prime B450M A/CSM 2 x 8GB G-Skill DDR4 2666 Dell E2210 (22" widescreen) monitor + Asus Dual Radeon RX 6600 Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200.12 SATA Seagate Barracuda 2TB SATA Samsung EVO 970 1TB NVMe HyperX Cloud Stinger wired headset

Yesterday, 12:43 AM	#1854
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,265	Lisa Su said it would be basic gpus on all cpus to get at the oem market. APU will be a separate product. They still need apus for laptops so might as well still have them for desktops. __________________

Yesterday, 08:40 PM	#1855
Napoleonic Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,890	So do you people here think and can compete this time? I'm worried that we're going back to monopoly way too soon __________________ I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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