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Old Jul 9, 2021, 01:38 AM   #1
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I was always sure about getting the PS5, and always wanted to get one.

But ever since Microsoft acquired Bethesda, I am losing interest in it... BIG. Truth be told, all I cared about is Uncharted, but there is already rumors the remastered trilogy will come out on PC. While playing some PS5 exclusives is great, they really aren't a must for me given my huge PC backlog and growing interest in Game Pass.

While having one will be nice for the living room, I really don't know anymore.

But here's the thing. The official PS store in Hong Kong have been periodically (like once a month) holding "purchase lotteries" where only a select number of people can purchase one, and so have it, I was selected a few days after I ordered my new US$2500 gaming PC.

I can easily make US$150 selling the PS5. So what do you think? Sell it or buy one praying there will be exclusives that will capture my interest?
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Old Jul 9, 2021, 02:33 AM   #2
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Personally I wouldnt bother with it, not enough exclusives yet but come back in 2 years time when they refresh the model and there's a back catalogue of games going cheap buy one then.

Bethesda was the big shock that has made me think of an Series X and its a more powerful bit of hardware too, or a powerful PC like you have coming and a membership to gamepass will tide you over for the next 2 years.

Also the backwards compatibility on the PS5 is so short sighted of Sony, Microsoft have the right idea having pretty much all there old games getting patched 60-120fps and faster loading vs Sony leaving everything in PS4 or Pro mode.
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Old Jul 9, 2021, 02:33 AM   #3
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buy it and try it, even if you don't like it you will still be able to get your money back and some.
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Old Jul 9, 2021, 10:19 AM   #4
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While playing some PS5 exclusives is great, they really aren't a must for me given my huge PC backlog
Well that right there is the exact reason I have no interest to buy it. The game catalog of the PC platform satisfies pretty much all my gaming needs. If I bought a PS5 it would likely just be an expensive dust collector. If you have a current specced PC you are pretty set for gaming, IMO.

As already mentioned it might make more sense to just wait a couple years until its more widely available, cheaper, and has a bigger catalog of worthwhile exclusives.
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Old Jul 9, 2021, 11:46 AM   #5
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I want a ps5 for late gen ps4 titles.

You kind of get the definite edition of those games by playing it on a ps5.



But I live in a market that does not matter, so 2022 is probably when I get my hand on one.
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Old Jul 9, 2021, 12:25 PM   #6
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I have no desire for a PS4 or PS5. Some of the available PS exclusive titles dont really interest me.

I have my PC for graphical games and multiplats, since most of any game i would want to play would be available on PC as well. Only a handful of exclusives dont appear to be exclusive that much longer (FF7 remake im looking at you, and the kingdom hearts series made the jump to PC not that long ago).

However just turning it on and off whenever makes a console much more palatable.....which is why i want to build a small mini PC for the living room (ive got Xbox 360 controllers that would work).

Besides, I also have a Switch. Between the Switch and PC, i pretty much have all the bases covered for the games i would play.
There was a time i thought i'd be in on a PS4 pro, but that ship has sailed.
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I think Sony is going to expand their offerings for PC. They'll want to compete with Microsoft who has and will continue to release all their first party titles on PC. Sony also just acquired Nixxes who specialize in porting.
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They need to bring NHL to PC, and then I'll have no reason for my PS anymore. Y'all are missing out on Ghost of Tsushima and Bloodborne, though.
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I've got no PS5 related regrets. I've been getting a ton of use out of it, but that's primarily because I enjoy revisiting games. It'll keep me busy for a while.
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They need to bring NHL to PC, and then I'll have no reason for my PS anymore. Y'all are missing out on Ghost of Tsushima and Bloodborne, though.
Bloodborne is the main reason I finally have a PS4 now. And Ghost of Tsushima is the only other game I am likely to going to buy for it.

Way back before Death Stranding got ported to PC that was another game I was going to get a PS4 for, but luckily it got ported.

With literally only 2 exclusive games for the entire lifecycle of the PS4 having any interest to me, its doubtful I will ever buy a PS5 especially seeing the rumors Sony is going to start releasing more PC ports. I see it as a good thing though. I don't really consider myself part of the console demographic and looks like Sony and MS don't really consider PC gaming as a direct competitor to their consoles. I am PC all the way for modern gaming. Well, and Nintendo but they are a different segment all together IMO.
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There were so many good exclusives with the PS4. Many show up on PC 2 - 4 years later. So, it's up to you how long you mind waiting. When I got the PS4 I found better quality games overall as compared to PC over the last years of that console. PS5 hasn't hit the same stride yet. But, I am confident it will. Right now I would love to own a PS5. If only I could. It's been near impossible to get one without paying a scalper. (something I want to avoid).
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There were so many good exclusives with the PS4. Many show up on PC 2 - 4 years later. So, it's up to you how long you mind waiting. When I got the PS4 I found better quality games overall as compared to PC over the last years of that console. PS5 hasn't hit the same stride yet. But, I am confident it will. Right now I would love to own a PS5. If only I could. It's been near impossible to get one without paying a scalper. (something I want to avoid).
GameStop. And PlayStation direct. I was able to nab 2 by mistake about 20 minutes apart from GameStop. Most people I know that have them, got them from those two places.
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Get it. Play Spider Man and Ratchet and Clank. Then sell it. Profit.
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GameStop. And PlayStation direct. I was able to nab 2 by mistake about 20 minutes apart from GameStop. Most people I know that have them, got them from those two places.
If I had a dollar for every minute I spent in a PlayStation direct queue or hit refresh on a Gamespot drop I would have enough money to buy 10 PS5s. Been doing the same game for BestBuy, Walmart, and Target drops too. Starting to get burned out
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If I had a dollar for every minute I spent in a PlayStation direct queue or hit refresh on a Gamespot drop I would have enough money to buy 10 PS5s. Been doing the same game for BestBuy, Walmart, and Target drops too. Starting to get burned out
When GameStop says keep checking because they’re adding more periodically, that’s legit. I got the first one like 12 minutes after the drop even though it said it was out. The 2nd one, the add to cart popped up while I was on the page.
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Sold it cause I don't really care much about Playstation exclusives anymore.

Made US$150 selling the darn thing.
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Sold it cause I don't really care much about Playstation exclusives anymore.

Made US$150 selling the darn thing.
You should have played Ghost of Tsushima first.
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Its rumored to be coming to PC at some point...we'll see if its true but if it is true..one less reason for a PS4.
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Its rumored to be coming to PC at some point...we'll see if its true but if it is true..one less reason for a PS4.
They would be crazy not to.
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There were so many good exclusives with the PS4. Many show up on PC 2 - 4 years later. So, it's up to you how long you mind waiting. When I got the PS4 I found better quality games overall as compared to PC over the last years of that console. PS5 hasn't hit the same stride yet. But, I am confident it will. Right now I would love to own a PS5. If only I could. It's been near impossible to get one without paying a scalper. (something I want to avoid).
The PS4 (and PS5) exclusives list is not at all impressive to me. Of course its just my opinion and game preferences, but outside of the couple games I mentioned there isn't much there I find interesting.

Also, there's the big issue of performance on consoles, and lack of ability to adjust settings to tailor performance to my liking. For example the big one for me is always framerate. So many games are still 30 fps which I am extremely sensitive to and makes it tough to play for more than a few minutes. I just don't understand why consoles have to still put the emphasis on visuals rather than smooth framerate.

I would gladly dial back the visuals and/or resolution in games like Bloodborne if it could achieve 60 fps. Not sure why they refuse to give this at least as an option in all current console games. The systems are pretty much PCs at this point so I don't see why they couldn't do it. I do understand some games like Bloodborne are balanced for timing at 30 fps, and would experience some game breaking issues at higher framerates. But I can't believe with just a little added effort in development these issues could not be ironed out. Apparently they just don't view smooth gameplay as a priority, which is a shame.
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Most games I have on the 5 do have a switch to set either frame rate or visuals. Thing is, choosing frame rate does not result in a huge loss of IQ. Any of the more critically praised titles that haven’t gotten a PS5 update ought to be hounded by Sony until they do. From soft for one is notorious for just dropping a game after a certain period of time, or number of patches. That just sucks, primarily because of games like Bloodborne.
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Yeah my understanding is its usually simply just dropping rendering resolution, for example from 1080 to 720, and that frees up processing resources to allow the game to run in the higher fps.

How hard can that be to patch in? Of course I'm no game software developer and I'm sure there's other issues that could be involved. I have seen games that break when you move to higher framerate, but surely with a little work they could do it.

Eh, just venting my frustrations. I am sad to say I have had to put Bloodborne on the back burner due to my worsening sensitivity to the low framerate. I still really want to play it, but I literally feel physically ill after 20-30 minutes. Its god damn awful.
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Yeah my understanding is its usually simply just dropping rendering resolution, for example from 1080 to 720, and that frees up processing resources to allow the game to run in the higher fps.

How hard can that be to patch in? Of course I'm no game software developer and I'm sure there's other issues that could be involved. I have seen games that break when you move to higher framerate, but surely with a little work they could do it.

Eh, just venting my frustrations. I am sad to say I have had to put Bloodborne on the back burner due to my worsening sensitivity to the low framerate. I still really want to play it, but I literally feel physically ill after 20-30 minutes. Its god damn awful.
That’s frustrating as hell dude, sorry to hear it’s getting that bad.

I don’t believe people ought to let developers off the hook for ignoring what ought to be a simple fix and that’s always been a source of annoyance with fromsoft for me.

A modder uncapped DaS1 with little to no issues. I refuse to believe they can’t with Bloodborne. Other devs released free PS5 upgrades (Nioh 2 52Gb worth!) almost immediately ….so I’d love to see FS get pressured into doing something with BB. Geesh
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That’s frustrating as hell dude, sorry to hear it’s getting that bad.

I don’t believe people ought to let developers off the hook for ignoring what ought to be a simple fix and that’s always been a source of annoyance with fromsoft for me.

A modder uncapped DaS1 with little to no issues. I refuse to believe they can’t with Bloodborne. Other devs released free PS5 upgrades (Nioh 2 52Gb worth!) almost immediately ….so I’d love to see FS get pressured into doing something with BB. Geesh
Yeah its super frustrating when a game dev I otherwise love has to do something to piss me off. But hey, they are a business after all and their bottom line is the top priority. I'm sure they weighed the pros/cons and decided it wasn't worth it for them. The game was super successful as is, and I'm sure my complaints are in a small minority so who cares right?

As for me, I don't know what the hell is going on. Not as bad as games at 30 fps, but I have also been starting to have some trouble playing games with higher framerates unless I can set the FOV higher. Like it has to be at least above 105 and even then its still not guaranteed to alleviate it. I might have some other issue going on, like a worsening eye sight problem or ear infection that's throwing off my equilibrium. I have been sick with this weird cold for over a month now. I already saw my doctor couple weeks ago (telemedicine) but I think I need to follow up to discuss this.
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Yeah its super frustrating when a game dev I otherwise love has to do something to piss me off. But hey, they are a business after all and their bottom line is the top priority. I'm sure they weighed the pros/cons and decided it wasn't worth it for them. The game was super successful as is, and I'm sure my complaints are in a small minority so who cares right?

As for me, I don't know what the hell is going on. Not as bad as games at 30 fps, but I have also been starting to have some trouble playing games with higher framerates unless I can set the FOV higher. Like it has to be at least above 105 and even then its still not guaranteed to alleviate it. I might have some other issue going on, like a worsening eye sight problem or ear infection that's throwing off my equilibrium. I have been sick with this weird cold for over a month now. I already saw my doctor couple weeks ago (telemedicine) but I think I need to follow up to discuss this.
Is your doctor referring you to an ENT? Your symptoms sound very similar to what my wife deals with. She was diagnosed with a Chronic middle ear infection. They do not go away, and her's required surgery as it became set in the bone.

I really hope that's not the issue, seriously...hers was rough on her.
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Is your doctor referring you to an ENT? Your symptoms sound very similar to what my wife deals with. She was diagnosed with a Chronic middle ear infection. They do not go away, and her's required surgery as it became set in the bone.

I really hope that's not the issue, seriously...hers was rough on her.
Nope. When I spoke to him over video call I gave him my symptoms which boiled down to a post nasal drip diagnosis. He suggested treating it with nasal spray, which has helped the symptoms of that. But I still feel nauseous/dizzy a lot, and overall lousy.

I am going to follow up with him and try to get an in person visit this time so he can examine my ears. Last appointment had to be telemedicine because they said since I had a constant cough they didn't want me coming in.

Ughh, I can tell this is going to be a long road to getting this sorted. Sucks. I just want to play video games without feeling ill!
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Nope. When I spoke to him over video call I gave him my symptoms which boiled down to a post nasal drip diagnosis. He suggested treating it with nasal spray, which has helped the symptoms of that. But I still feel nauseous/dizzy a lot, and overall lousy.

I am going to follow up with him and try to get an in person visit this time so he can examine my ears. Last appointment had to be telemedicine because they said since I had a constant cough they didn't want me coming in.

Ughh, I can tell this is going to be a long road to getting this sorted. Sucks. I just want to play video games without feeling ill!
I would ask for the ENT, precautionary if nothing else. Your symptoms are too close to what she dealt with.

Absolute best of luck man, the sooner it's sorted the better.
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I would ask for the ENT, precautionary if nothing else. Your symptoms are too close to what she dealt with.

Absolute best of luck man, the sooner it's sorted the better.
Yeah my wife also told me I probably need to see an ENT to properly diagnose.

Thanks for the concern and advice, and sorry for the thread derail.
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