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Old Jun 29, 2020, 08:58 AM   #1
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This is not news, but a confirmation from a reputable source. We have already covered Cezanne and other AMD APUs in an article last month. AMD Cezanne is expected to launch under Ryzen 5000G, H, and U series next year. This is a successor to Renoir, which took the mobile market by surprise.
APUs: Renoir -> Cezanne -> Rembrandt?

It is now exclusively reported by Igor Wallossek, that Cezanne silicon is still in an A0 stepping, which means an early stage of development. On the other hand, Vermeer (Ryzen 4000 desktop) is already on B0 stepping, which is more or less the final state and the processors should be ready for mass production.

AMD Cezanne is now confirmed by Igor to feature Vega graphics, likely to be the final refresh of the Vega graphics we have already seen in Picasso APUs, later refreshed for Renoir silicon.

The company is also expected to unveil its Van Gogh silicon for low-power APUs, likely to be a successor just released Dali APUs under Athlon 3000U series. However, unlike Cezanne, Van Gogh is expected to feature RDNA-based GPU cores. At the same time, the low power APUs are rumored to carry Zen2 cores, so it’s one step further and one step backward.

Things are about to change with Rembrandt’s arrival. This is the successor to Cezanne, but not only featuring newer Zen3 cores but also RDNA-based integrated graphics. Combining the best of both CPU and GPU worlds.
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CPUs: Matisse -> Vermeer -> Warhol -> Raphael?

It is still not quite clear what will happen after Vermeer, the next-generation Ryzen 4000 mainstream desktop series. We have already had a leak mentioning Warhol and Raphael, but it was not official or reported by other reputable sources to really take it seriously.

Next year AMD will be shifting to a newer socket, so Warhol could be an interim series while we make the transition. Warhol is also rumored to be Zen3 still, but probably a refreshed design known as Zen3+.

Meanwhile, its successor is currently expected to be Raphael, would bring Zen4 cores to the market, this is the true upgrade for Ryzen family, as it should feature 5nm core design and support for DDR5 memory.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 10:22 AM   #2
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Nice! Hopefully my board will support the Zen4 architecture and I'll move to a Ryzen 6000 in a couple years.
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Nice! Hopefully my board will support the Zen4 architecture and I'll move to a Ryzen 6000 in a couple years.
The transition from DDR4 to DDR5 will necessitate a new mobo.
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Interesting tweet here saying asus ch6 will get ryzen 4k support:

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Hes the guy who wrote drma calculator. Does asus ch6 have 32 meg bios chip?
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Man... I think this might end up being the only time I've skipped an entire generation of memory for my desktop . Assuming I don't cave and buy into the last AM3 generation of Ryzen before the end of the year.
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3000 CPU Official Specs Leak Out – Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX Flagship, Up To 64 Cores, 128 Threads, 128 PCIe Lanes & 8-Channel / 2TB DDR4 Memory Support
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Interesting tweet here saying asus ch6 will get ryzen 4k support:

https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1262983408306790401




Hes the guy who wrote drma calculator. Does asus ch6 have 32 meg bios chip?
I really hope it is true. The truth is there's not that much difference between X370 and X470 so it should be do-able. If I did not have to pull my CH6 to upgrade that would be a huge boon.
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I really hope it is true. The truth is there's not that much difference between X370 and X470 so it should be do-able. If I did not have to pull my CH6 to upgrade that would be a huge boon.
I just put in the latest bios F50d with agesa 1.0.0.6 up from F50a 1.0.0.4 and its the same size as the old bios while adding R3K XT cpus support.

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I really think they can cram R4K in the remaining 5.7 megs. I just cant see why not.
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I noticed the 5000g will still be using Vega. I really hope by the time DDR5 is normalized that AMD will take its APUs seriously. I really like the idea of a 65 watt TDP SoC that could double as a mid range gaming PC in a pinch. I have a Ryzen3 2200g in my media PC, and you'd be surprised how many AAA games it can play at 900p or better. You'd also be surprised how far back in time you have to go to find something playable at 1440p or higher. My point anyway, is that even though they've only really done low end so far, there is still a lot of potential.
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I noticed the 5000g will still be using Vega. I really hope by the time DDR5 is normalized that AMD will take its APUs seriously. I really like the idea of a 65 watt TDP SoC that could double as a mid range gaming PC in a pinch. I have a Ryzen3 2200g in my media PC, and you'd be surprised how many AAA games it can play at 900p or better. You'd also be surprised how far back in time you have to go to find something playable at 1440p or higher. My point anyway, is that even though they've only really done low end so far, there is still a lot of potential.
AMD gimps themselves somehow...the 4000 series APU gets boosted with Zen2 but then gets crippled with Vega8 on the top end (instead of using Vega11). Its somewhat compensated with the higher clocks but the performance increase could have been higher than what it is going to be.
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AMD gimps themselves somehow...the 4000 series APU gets boosted with Zen2 but then gets crippled with Vega8 on the top end (instead of using Vega11). Its somewhat compensated with the higher clocks but the performance increase could have been higher than what it is going to be.
The APUs are completely limited by memory bandwidth, so the extra CUs wouldn't make much difference. With the higher IGP clock speed they probably figured they could cut the 3 CUs without it really affecting performance. Maybe if the 8 CUs can clock higher then it could even be a better configuration.
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Igor's Lab today reported the discovery of two new ordering part numbers (OPNs): 100-000000065-04_ 46/36 _Y and 100-000000061-06_ 49/37 _Y. They are reportedly for for models with 16 CPU cores and should be the descendant of the Ryzen 9 3950X. The highest clocked engineering sample seemingly has a 3.7 GHz base clock and 4.9 GHz boost clock. For reference, the Ryzen 9 3950X sports a 3.5 GHz base clock and 4.7 GHz boost clock. If Igor's Lab's report is correct, we're looking at 5.7% and 4.3% improvements on the base and boost clocks, respectively.
Honeslty if they dont hit 5.0 this time they arent trying.
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If the boost clock can do 4.9 as rumored they should do 5.0 with ever so slighlty better cooling. Its not about perf at this point its about good marketing.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 09:10 PM   #21
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AM4 still?

Isnt it gonna die after Ryzen4000?

The 5000 gen of apus uses the 4000 gen (zen3) ryzen cores. As the 4000 gen apus use ryzen 3000... so expect the 6000 gen apus to probably be the last apus on am4.
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so it really does look like a planned warhol cpu for 2021, the AM4's last hurrah I suppose. I imagine it's probably going to be like the difference between zen and zen+, a nice bump but nothing like zen+ to zen 2.
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Hmm well Zen+ had a node change to 12nm from 14nm. While this doesnt seem to. Itd be cool to see Zen 3+ on 6 or 5nm tho.
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Hmm well Zen+ had a node change to 12nm from 14nm. While this doesnt seem to. Itd be cool to see Zen 3+ on 6 or 5nm tho.
I could see 7nm+ EUV or something used for it
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Awesome time saver for casual ocers/undervolters. Will keep an eye out for it when they have fleshed out all the zen 2 cpus for it. Maybe even get zen 3 support?...
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So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


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So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


It's not that 300 series boards can't handle Zen 3; it's the fact that all of the microcode required to support all of the AM4 SKUs doesn't fit in a standard 16MB BIOS flash chip. Trying to support Zen 3 on 300-series boards would result in a massive number of RMAs due to users pairing a new CPU with an old stock mobo or an old stock CPU with a mobo flashed to the latest BIOS.

If AMD had mandated 32MB BIOS chips and/or BIOS flashback the situation would be much better.
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No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.
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No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.
Its true to a certain extent.

They'd have to pick and choose which CPU's to support and which to drop.

I had installed a Ryzen 3600 into an A320 mobo when those first came out, and the bios update had removed support for all the CPU's prior to the zen lineup (i forget if they even removed support for Zen1) and reduced the bios UI from fancy to just basic.
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