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Old Aug 2, 2009, 11:49 AM   #31
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All it means is that a person is deficient in his ability to properly put himself into a receptive state of mind
that sentence there implies that there is something wrong with a person who doesn't get scared/spooked in a game. stop putting people down because they don't share your experiences in games.
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Old Aug 2, 2009, 11:58 AM   #32
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that sentence there implies that there is something wrong with a person who doesn't get scared/spooked in a game. stop putting people down because they don't share your experiences in games.


That's because there is... it is called lack of imagination. I intentionally said it like that because the statements relating to not being scared are usually said in such a manner as to connote some sort of superiority, or imply a sort of snobbery ("oh you thought that was scary... psshhh that wasn't scary at all") and I was just setting the record straight. It was meant to ruffle a few feathers so as to put things into context.

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Considering the plethora of sub-par FPS games being release FEAR(2) was actually quite decent. I bought the first and played the second which my friend had bought. For the time you played it was enjoyable, but I never saw any replay value.
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Just for those of you who have just played FEAR for the first time, if you get invested in the story, DO NOT play the expansion packs, seriously... Extraction Point was fun in gameplay value, i especially liked the tweaked moving walls parts of the game, but i'm a story man (and get really into my games like pahncrd does... my god deep space freaks me out sometimes) and extraction point really ****s up the story, so only get the expansion pack/s if you don't care about the story.

Also, FEAR 2 is not as bad as everyone says it is, its environs are not equal to FEAR but the story is ok, and the graphics are great except for the shadows problem... I'd say the game is fairly average, but it is definitely no where near as bad as some people make it out to be.
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Just for those of you who have just played FEAR for the first time, if you get invested in the story, DO NOT play the expansion packs, seriously... Extraction Point was fun in gameplay value, i especially liked the tweaked moving walls parts of the game, but i'm a story man (and get really into my games like pahncrd does... my god deep space freaks me out sometimes) and extraction point really ****s up the story, so only get the expansion pack/s if you don't care about the story.

Also, FEAR 2 is not as bad as everyone says it is, its environs are not equal to FEAR but the story is ok, and the graphics are great except for the shadows problem... I'd say the game is fairly average, but it is definitely no where near as bad as some people make it out to be.
The expansion packs aren't even considered canon by the developers. I thought they were fun, but the stories are completely messed up like you said.

I liked FEAR 2 a lot after I started playing it in 3d. It has some really good scares in it, and I fell out of my chair at least a couple of times while playing through it.
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I liked it too, but i found it a bit over the top with the "scary" bits, i found them too much, which in turn made them not scary at all for me, and i don't like that. It may not be survival horror, but it is still supposed to be adrenalin filled, my heart beat didn't change once :/ I didn't even die the first time (Before the Harder mode patch) until the snipers at the end which took me by surprise more than any of the scares did

I did think the story was goode, but the characters were not as goode as those in fear either... I imagine in 3D it would be great, and its goode to somebody enjoys it

Makes me wonder what Dead Space is like in 3D though... that game DOES surprise and startle me!!
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re- Fear Extraction Point......I consider this more of Fear, so if you liked Fear, then there's no reason not to buy this game especially as prices are very reasonable now.....however, P Mandate sux, and F2 is a waste of a game, ie, it lost it's soul with the ****ty graphics and subsequent atmosphere downgrade.
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Not being creeped out is not a badge of honor. It does not make you cool or more of a man. All it means is that a person is deficient in his ability to properly put himself into a receptive state of mind. It is somewhat sad, as there is no gaming experience quite like it.

i think it's just that we consider different thing's scary. examples of scary games for me are system shock 2, resident evil 4, cryostasis, dead space spoked me out occasionaly or disgusted me., AvP playing as the marine. hell even thief 1 was scary

Fear for me doesn't qualify in a category of horror games, i played it for the combat.

its like watching the exorcist.. it does nothing for me. i can't immerse myself in a religious scare, but if it was mentally ill child that stabs people, id be scared lol.

different taste in fear, thats all
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Lol Pet Cemetary, "No Fair, No Fair" Damn kids make the creepiest scariest horror themes.. *shudders*
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funny that this is brought up again. I was actually planning on installing fear again this week. One hell of a ride!
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The original was quality can remember really getting immersed in it, at the time it had really nice graphical effects and had a nice overall spooky feel to it aswell as a cool story driving it. And honestly when playing at early morning 3am ish it creeped me out, only at certain bits though seriously anyone who hasnt tried playing it with lights out, headphones up full etc try it and lets see how tough you are then.

The slow motion was a really nice feature (survival horror + first person + slow mo ) cant beat it. Also recently finished dead space which also had its freaky moments, mainly played through in early hours, with lights out headset etc etc, was a decent game overall and deffo had the classic survival horror feel to it, its pretty much resident evil in space which isn't a bad thing really.

Still haven't got round to getting hold of a copy of FEAR2 yet as its still a bit pricey here.
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Yep, it and its expansion pack are two of the greats.
Oh lords no. The expansions weren't that great and the story line told within them made close to no sense imo.

I did enjoy Fear and Fear2 though.
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I just loaded Persee Mandate again and ran the ingame performance test, and at the exact same specs, I score 20fps higher than on Fear or F XP, so they've obviously reduced the demands of the game and it shows.....it looks faint compared to the grit and viscosity of Fear and XP.

Also, the opening part of the game is mainly mid-long rang-ish shooting.....a big mistake considering close combat with or without slo mo was Fear's forte.

So based on that, this is my rankings.....

1...Fear....not just the best of the series, but one of the best FPSers period.
2...Fear XP....all the visual and visceral glory of Fear sans the originality.
3...Fear2....I thought this game was okay at first, but after my re-exposure to Fear maxed, and my attempt to replay it, I don't rate Fear2 very highly.





4...Persee Mandate.....a 2004 looking lifeless and meaningless POS released amongst the quality of Crysis, Stalker, COD4.......I simply can't be bothered to push on and play this POS.
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Make sure you use the latest patch for best performance, IQ and high-res widescreen support.

Its retarded how well this game performs! The second one is no slacker either!
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Make sure you use the latest patch for best performance, IQ and high-res widescreen support.
Fear and XP require some fiddling to get 1920x1200, but it's easy enough and you can get the info from the WS gaming forum.

Both Persh.it Mandate and F2 have native WS support, but F2 needs a patch if you have a 16:10 LCD.
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I didn't think this game was spooky the first time, but this second time around is a different story..
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I didn't think this game was spooky the first time, but this second time around is a different story..
It just depends if you get caught off guard...either way, the general atmosphere and lighting maxed out make a huge difference to this game+ the extra physics really kick in as well.

I'll be adding a 37in 1080p LCD in the not too distant future, it'll be interesting to see how it fairs on that.
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FEAR was a great game. FEAR extraction point had some nice stuff in there. FEAR PM was something I never got around to playing due to 4.5/10 scores. FEAR 2 was a decent small shoot em up game with poor story telling mechanics and console tardiness spit all over it.

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So, I'm in Interval 06 (Sayonara Sucker), right after you find the fat man with the cactus , and I get the general idea of what is going on, but I don't know anything about the little girl yet. Did I miss something? Is she the one controlling the baddies? Don't tell me if I'm not supposed to know yet.
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Ehem, needs to be said again.

Fear 2 is a pile of rubbish. FEAR was awesome. Fear 2 not so much.
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FEAR 2 still got great reviews so I'll give it a shot regardless after I finish Extraction Point.
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I loved FEAR 2 in 3d stereo. Though it was a bit less interesting in normal 2d to be sure.
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So, I'm in Interval 06 (Sayonara Sucker), right after you find the fat man with the cactus , and I get the general idea of what is going on, but I don't know anything about the little girl yet. Did I miss something? Is she the one controlling the baddies? Don't tell me if I'm not supposed to know yet.
No you are right on track, I had to play the game through twice to get everything, but checking up on Wikipedia confirms everything I thought was going on.
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^Thanks
I love how dynamic the AI is in this game. You have to move almost like you're playing multiplayer
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I only really bothered playing the first one. Flickering the lights on and off and doors mysteriously close isn't particularly scary.

The Main Character hardly ever gets involved with the story. Why can't Fettel just tell you everything the first time you meet him, then you can just skip 3/4ths of the game since you do NOTHING but blasting people.

And blasting people is the only thing I really enjoyed. Nothing like watching enemies explode in slow motion from a shotgun blast at point blank.
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F.E.A.R.'s AI Demystified

it's not a spoiler really. it just tells you how they cleverly managed to make the AI feel so dynamic when it really wasn't. good read if you're interested.
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I tell you what, if FEAR 2 had the AI Director from L4D it would have been phenomenal, would have then actually been an improvement on FEAR and not just a side step.
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it's not a spoiler really. it just tells you how they cleverly managed to make the AI feel so dynamic when it really wasn't. good read if you're interested.
That just proves how a well constructed game can feel a lot better than a more technically advanced game. Truly impressive.
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just tried playing with headphones on and there is way too much bass....

There's this awful rumbling sound when I'm just standing there doing nothing...

I'm using built-in RealTek HD Audio with Sony MDR-XD300 studio monitor heaphones.

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