Installing Win11 now... - Page 4

**acroig** · Oct 5, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

I don't like the new Start menu or where it's positioned. Luckily it's easy to move it back to the left side. Also, Stardock just released Start11 to bring back the old Start menu I love, so that's an option if Microsoft's new design doesn't flick your Bic. (arcane reference there...who gets it?)

Waves.....

**acroig** · Oct 5, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangler

Is auto-hdr available in the current version of win11?

Yes.

Nunz · Oct 5, 2021, 10:22 AM

Is there a way to make your right click automatically go to the "show more options" by default? I have having to right click a file, then "show more options" to select 7zip to extract, or cut/copy/paste.

Munkus · Oct 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Is there a way to make your right click automatically go to the "show more options" by default? I have having to right click a file, then "show more options" to select 7zip to extract, or cut/copy/paste.

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/...-context-menus

Nunz · Oct 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

You're a hero! I was only finding a bunch of old regedits that don't seem to work on the official build; must have been some stuff from dev builds.

Thanks!! I'm actually pretty satisfied with it so far - the context menu was definitely my biggest gripe thus far. Time to start DLing games and testing performance. I don't expect much change at all, though.

Munkus · Oct 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

Final ISO can be downloaded here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows11

Munkus · Oct 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

You're a hero! I was only finding a bunch of old regedits that don't seem to work on the official build; must have been some stuff from dev builds.

Thanks!! I'm actually pretty satisfied with it so far - the context menu was definitely my biggest gripe thus far. Time to start DLing games and testing performance. I don't expect much change at all, though.

You're welcome

There are a few other tweaks that I made, like bringing back the full File Explorer ribbon and disabling VBS. I'm pretty happy with it so far. Haven't found anything that won't run as well as it did on Win 10.

Nunz · Oct 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

Yeah, pretty nice so far. I just had a random shutdown, though - PC shut down and started back up on it's own. Very strange.

I did update the BIOS on my mobo, so I may have entered my manual memory timings incorrectly .. damn it. I forgot to take a pic of them before I set to defaults prior to updating the BIOS.

Just got another one. I think my RAM voltage wasn't set properly .. we'll see. bumped it up to what I'm 99% sure it used to be. I don't see Win11 causing the shutdowns .. must be my mistake.

Yep - I set my voltage to 1.52v instead of 1.55v. I forgot that I ran 1.52 @ 4133, but need 1.55 for 4266 .. woops!

When I reinstalled, I took the leap and got rid of Google Chrome - I imported everything to Edge, and I must say .. very impressed. Super snappy browser, and the import was as easy as one click. Passwords, extensions etc all copied over. Very happy with this and Win11 overall .. I'll test out some D2R now

**acroig** · Oct 5, 2021, 03:37 PM

All working well here too. Games are as fast as Win 10 and have set HDR to Auto.

Nunz · Oct 5, 2021, 05:22 PM

I'm actually seeing performance increase. My timespy score went up over 800pts with a fresh Win11 install on same settings

Nascar24 · Oct 5, 2021, 05:26 PM

Well I am now on the official build of windows 11 from a clean install and all is well, less problems already, steam is such a dream to find my hundreds of games over 8 drives. The rest of the launchers are a nightmare.

Munkus · Oct 5, 2021, 06:05 PM

I think I'm going to do a wipe and reinstall using the release ISO, just because I'm a neat freak and it's been awhile.

Nascar24 · Oct 5, 2021, 06:33 PM

lol, to hell with all these other game launchers except maybe blizzard. They all either have to verify or try downloading the game again when its completely unnecessary, I guess I live with my steam library and I will screw around with any game I might have stored if I feel like it, the other launchers are just plain stupid!

Nunz · Oct 5, 2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

I think I'm going to do a wipe and reinstall using the release ISO, just because I'm a neat freak and it's been awhile.

I did the upgrade and lasted 10 minutes. There's nothing like a clean, fresh install.

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 10:37 AM

And wholy crap the ms game launcher is complete crap, you can’t keep installs from different drives to just add the dam game back in and is just giving me fits trying to del. the dam directories so the drive can be used again to install future games to that drive. I don’t understand how ms can be this stupid with this chit.

Talon_262 · Oct 6, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Enabled TPM and just installed Win11. I really like the new taskbar, this thing is sweet for a 38" ultrawide! Not a huge fan of this start menu, though .. I'm sure it'll grow on me

Start11: https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/

It's not (as of yet) as configurable as Start8 or Start10, but part of that may be because Start11 is still in beta; I've been using it for the past month or so and, beta or not, it works a treat.

Munkus · Oct 6, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24

And wholy crap the ms game launcher is complete crap, you can’t keep installs from different drives to just add the dam game back in and is just giving me fits trying to del. the dam directories so the drive can be used again to install future games to that drive. I don’t understand how ms can be this stupid with this chit.

Yeah, the way the XBox app stores game files is nuts. They lock the folders down tight, and there is no way to tell the app to find existing games, so you end up with many Gbs of files that you can't delete easily.

Nunz · Oct 6, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Talon_262

Start11: https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/

It's not (as of yet) as configurable as Start8 or Start10, but part of that may be because Start11 is still in beta; I've been using it for the past month or so and, beta or not, it works a treat.

I'm not a fan of running extra applications (mah FPS!!). The Start Menu is definitely not as thought-out as the Win10 version, but I'll get used to it. I really liked the tile design and how organized you could make it. Currently, as far as I can tell, you can't do that with the Win11 menu.

With the context menu being fixed (thanks to Munkus!) I'm loving Win11 thus far. Gamed a bit last night and it was smooth as butter, and Auto HDR works really well. My monitor is only HDR400 with no local dimming so it's not the best experience but hey, it does work.

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

Yeah, the way the XBox app stores game files is nuts. They lock the folders down tight, and there is no way to tell the app to find existing games, so you end up with many Gbs of files that you can't delete easily.

I guess the moral of this story is to uninstall all MS launcher games before wiping and starting fresh with windows 11. Just plain out ridiculous.

Munkus · Oct 6, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24

I guess the moral of this story is to uninstall all MS launcher games before wiping and starting fresh with windows 11. Just plain out ridiculous.

Yep.

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

Yep.

Honestly still a bit baffled, I was trying to take ownership left and right but it plain out refused, tried a force delete program and it failed, after many attempts to take ownership it let me rename the folder, which in turn after a reboot it disappeared and created a new folder, which was empty. I checked the space on the drive, after it disappeared the space on the drive didn't change and the folder is now supposedly gone, its also not hidden as I checked that too. So where the hell is all the space those games took up? Dam you Microsoft.

Nunz · Oct 6, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24

Honestly still a bit baffled, I was trying to take ownership left and right but it plain out refused, tried a force delete program and it failed, after many attempts to take ownership it let me rename the folder, which in turn after a reboot it disappeared and created a new folder, which was empty. I checked the space on the drive, after it disappeared the space on the drive didn't change and the folder is now supposedly gone, its also not hidden as I checked that too. So where the hell is all the space those games took up? Dam you Microsoft.

Try running a disk cleanup - maybe it moved the folder to temporary files or the recycle bin and you can't see it?

Oh, and hot damn I wish I had swapped to MS Edge sooner! It runs amazing and the privacy features seem legit compared to the Chrome datamining that was going on.

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Try running a disk cleanup - maybe it moved the folder to temporary files or the recycle bin and you can't see it?

Oh, and hot damn I wish I had swapped to MS Edge sooner! It runs amazing and the privacy features seem legit compared to the Chrome datamining that was going on.

Ill give that a try when home tonight, shouldn't be this much of a pain to del. a game install directory manually, we are not talking about saving the world here, which requires complete lockdown.

Nunz · Oct 6, 2021, 11:56 AM

I completely agree. I wish I had more experience with the MS Store, but I don't use it or have any games under it, otherwise I would test for you.

I stick to Steam and Battle.net these days

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

I completely agree. I wish I had more experience with the MS Store, but I don't use it or have any games under it, otherwise I would test for you.

I stick to Steam and Battle.net these days

Yea steam is actually a dream to deal with on reinstalls and Blizzard isn't bad either as long as you know where your install is.

Munkus · Oct 6, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Oh, and hot damn I wish I had swapped to MS Edge sooner! It runs amazing and the privacy features seem legit compared to the Chrome datamining that was going on.

Yeah MS Edge runs really well, and there are a lot of privacy tweaks you can set inside the browser or on Microsoft's user profile page. Since MS's business model isn't selling your data to advertisers, I trust it more than Google. Still, I'm pretty paranoid about privacy, so I use a VPN and Brave browser. Runs just as well as Edge (both based on chromium) so it's my daily driver. I only use Edge when I need to run Office 365 browser apps. They seem to like Edge better (shocker!

).

Nunz · Oct 6, 2021, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

Yeah MS Edge runs really well, and there are a lot of privacy tweaks you can set inside the browser or on Microsoft's user profile page. Since MS's business model isn't selling your data to advertisers, I trust it more than Google. Still, I'm pretty paranoid about privacy, so I use a VPN and Brave browser. Runs just as well as Edge (both based on chromium) so it's my daily driver. I only use Edge when I need to run Office 365 browser apps. They seem to like Edge better (shocker!

).

Whatcha got to hide, huh?!

I'm not too crazy about the privacy stuff; I just don't like how Google has responded to the stuff they've been accused of regarding datamining, and yeah, the fact that they make billions of dollars off selling data just makes it even worse. I've also noticed it's a complete resource hog and the amount of resources it uses doesn't make sense. Edge seems much more streamlined despite being Chromium based.

We use Edge at work since most DoD websites are (were) built for Internet Explorer, so Edge has been what they are transitioning things to.

Nascar24 · Oct 6, 2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Try running a disk cleanup - maybe it moved the folder to temporary files or the recycle bin and you can't see it?

Oh, and hot damn I wish I had swapped to MS Edge sooner! It runs amazing and the privacy features seem legit compared to the Chrome datamining that was going on.

You were right on the money it threw them in the recycle bin.

**acroig** · Oct 6, 2021, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Gamed a bit last night and it was smooth as butter, and Auto HDR works really well. My monitor is only HDR400 with no local dimming so it's not the best experience but hey, it does work.

I was about to report the same exact thing. Auto HDR works really well.

**Trunks0** · Oct 6, 2021, 06:34 PM

Yea the datamining by Google is why I switched away from Chrome awhile back. Now I just use FireFox, Vivaldi occasionally and Edge. Mind you....I say that, but I use a ton of their services else where. So not really accomplishing much by not using Chrome on my desktop

I'll have to spin up a second drive and try this out. But I won't be switching for awhile, as Win10 is doing just fine for now.

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Oct 5, 2021, 03:37 PM	#99
acroig Troll SMod Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troll Master of Manchesville Posts: 57,487	All working well here too. Games are as fast as Win 10 and have set HDR to Auto. __________________ By your retarded posts i can only conclude you haven't been spanked enough. yoz

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Oct 5, 2021, 11:16 AM	#96
Munkus Hugged your dog lately? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Big Sky Country Posts: 28,599	Final ISO can be downloaded here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows11

Oct 5, 2021, 05:26 PM	#101
Nascar24 EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BOINGGGGGGGG! Posts: 14,316	Well I am now on the official build of windows 11 from a clean install and all is well, less problems already, steam is such a dream to find my hundreds of games over 8 drives. The rest of the launchers are a nightmare.

Oct 5, 2021, 06:05 PM	#102
Munkus Hugged your dog lately? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Big Sky Country Posts: 28,599	I think I'm going to do a wipe and reinstall using the release ISO, just because I'm a neat freak and it's been awhile.

Oct 5, 2021, 06:33 PM	#103
Nascar24 EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BOINGGGGGGGG! Posts: 14,316	lol, to hell with all these other game launchers except maybe blizzard. They all either have to verify or try downloading the game again when its completely unnecessary, I guess I live with my steam library and I will screw around with any game I might have stored if I feel like it, the other launchers are just plain stupid!

Oct 6, 2021, 10:37 AM	#105
Nascar24 EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BOINGGGGGGGG! Posts: 14,316	And wholy crap the ms game launcher is complete crap, you can’t keep installs from different drives to just add the dam game back in and is just giving me fits trying to del. the dam directories so the drive can be used again to install future games to that drive. I don’t understand how ms can be this stupid with this chit.

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Oct 6, 2021, 06:34 PM	#120
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,270	Yea the datamining by Google is why I switched away from Chrome awhile back. Now I just use FireFox, Vivaldi occasionally and Edge. Mind you....I say that, but I use a ton of their services else where. So not really accomplishing much by not using Chrome on my desktop I'll have to spin up a second drive and try this out. But I won't be switching for awhile, as Win10 is doing just fine for now. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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