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Old Apr 19, 2021, 01:37 PM   #5161
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Was just reading the 3080 Ti yields are really low. Surprise 100 card launch for the world.
they maybe trying to see if the on mining block works before cranking out more

first weeks are always slower on a new added card we will see
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 01:42 PM   #5162
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Are you surprised? nV has probably been binning these for weeks/months.

Another "unobtanium" release......

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NVIDIA's Entire GeForce RTX 30 Lineup Including The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti To Get Revised Ampere GPUs To Tackle Cryptocurrency Mining
While we had already got a hint of this happening a few weeks back, Igor's Lab has dug up some more information with the help of their sources at graphics card manufacturers. According to the source, the initial batch of the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card based on the GA102-225-A1 GPU core was still not fully protected against cryptocurrency mining. The GPU in its current QS state is still able to produce full hash rate performance in mining algorithms with the existing 470.05 BETA driver.

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To tackle this, NVIDIA has now submitted a newer Ampere GPU which should be known as GA102-22*-A1, & will be mass-produced for the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card instead of the GA102-225-A1 SKU. The new GPU is already in mass production and won't work with any existing drivers. The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti isn't the only GPU that will be getting a revised Ampere SKUs, in fact, the entire lineup will be getting newer chips as listed below (Rumor):
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - GA102-300-A1 -> GA102-302-A1
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - GA102-200-A1 -> GA102-202-A1
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 - GA104-300-A1 -> GA104-302-A1
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - GA104-200-A1 -> GA104-202-A1
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - GA106-300-A1 -> GA106-302-A1
The source reports that it is possible to flash the old GPU firmware on the new GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card but that doesn't come without its own set of issues. NVIDIA has devised a way that if users flash the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card with the older BIOS firmware, that would result in a black screen and vice versa.
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 01:56 PM   #5163
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Honestly I don't believe this card is going to be worth an upgrade from a standard 3080. Maybe 8 to 10 percent if lucky.
It's got be to less than 3090, right? And that's barely worth it performance wise...... never mind the higher price.
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 02:32 PM   #5164
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It's got be to less than 3090, right? And that's barely worth it performance wise...... never mind the higher price.
for 4k the 12gb may matter for 1440p and lower no
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 03:46 PM   #5165
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With the mining locks, even if there's a way around it, if they can make it challenging enough then that will at least discourage your mom and pop miners. A lot of people mining probably don't know much about what they're doing.

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It's got be to less than 3090, right? And that's barely worth it performance wise...... never mind the higher price.
I feel like AMD priced the 6900 XT pretty well at $1000. It still wasn't a good deal compared to the 6800 XT, being 50% more expensive for only 15% more performance, but in the end you were only paying a couple hundred premium so you could sort of justify it if you wanted to splurge. (Now of course $1000 is practically a bargain!) Of course, the only thing that actually adhered to that price point was the reference, so...

Realistically, whatever Nvidia set to MSRP to on the 3080 Ti, it's only going to be reasonable on the reference and EVGA. The other AIBs are selling 3080s for $1050-1100, so 3080 Ti is going to be like $1500 as Nascar24 said. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Realistically, whatever Nvidia set to MSRP to on the 3080 Ti, it's only going to be reasonable on the reference and EVGA. The other AIBs are selling 3080s for $1050-1100, so 3080 Ti is going to be like $1500 as Nascar24 said. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 04:34 PM   #5167
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isn't EVGA prices going up next month also ?
and has evga done a queue on any of the newer SKU's never saw one on the full water 3080

they price it too high and i will just wait for RDNA 3 and hope mining does even worse with MCM and Infinity Cache then it does with just Infinity Cache
at this point i think it will be out in less than a year
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LOL, the guy in front of me on the unofficial step-up queue received his step 2, but I didn't. Granted, it's an unofficial queue so not exactly representative of everyone in there, but it sucks being right on the edge and not receiving it!

Fortunately I still have a few weeks until the price increase goes into effect, so here's hoping. I'll laugh if I get the step 2 the week after the price increase goes into effect.
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My new 3080 mining rig, got room for a few more:



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Old Apr 29, 2021, 12:38 PM   #5173
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Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition out next week for PC - Raytracing GPU is Mandatory

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/me...mandatory.html


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General visual settings: Normal
Ray tracing quality settings: Normal
OS: Windows 10 (20 H2)
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DirectX: 12
General visual settings: High (Recommended (1080p/60 fps)

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OS: Windows 10 (20 H2)
CPU Cores: 8 Cores
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Ray tracing quality settings: High
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CPU Cores: 8 Cores
RAM: 16GB
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070 or AMD RX 6800 XT
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So 1440p ... minimum 3070 or 6800xt ...
BUT the funny is at CPU ... 8 cores ... So 1700 will be sufficient ... GPU bound ?

BUT ... 8gb only for the first 1080p minimum and high ? That's funny ...
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Where's the 4K Ultra settings?
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Where's the 4K Ultra settings?
3090 only?
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I figured the 5090?
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Where's the 4K Ultra settings?
RT Extreme 4K 60fps requires the RTX 3090. A 3080 gets you Ultra at 30fps I'm afraid.

We'll see what it's like next week I guess.
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Those numbers are without DLSS 2.1 for Nvidia. A 3080 should be fine for 4k if performance is going to improve from the base game, especially with DLSS 2.1
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RT Extreme 4K 60fps requires the RTX 3090. A 3080 gets you Ultra at 30fps I'm afraid.

We'll see what it's like next week I guess.
Lol if you think the gap between a 3090 and 3080 is 30FPS you're smoking crack
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Lol if you think the gap between a 3090 and 3080 is 30FPS you're smoking crack
Double the framerate? I wish.

Now programmers just need to use Mesh Shaders.
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Lol if you think the gap between a 3090 and 3080 is 30FPS you're smoking crack
Nothing to do with me I just read the specs they issued.
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Nothing to do with me I just read the specs they issued.
Here you go. Not out till next week so nobody really knows but this is what it's supposed to do. Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger.

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Granted, it's more of a synthetic ray tracing Unreal 4 benchmark called A rt-Mark but the Rtx 3090 was 119 to 171 percent more powerful than the Rtx 2080 Ti.
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Granted, it's more of a synthetic ray tracing Unreal 4 benchmark called A rt-Mark but the Rtx 3090 was 119 to 171 percent more powerful than the Rtx 2080 Ti.
I am super excited to try Metro Exodus Enhanced as a first time player of that game.

In the meantime I am currently playing my first RTX game which is Control Ultimate. The RTX effects are nice for my first time in seeing this technology.
Nvidia recommends running all effects RTX at maximum and the DLSS on. The effects look okay especially the reflections in the glass and the Ray traced particle effects. There is a lot of your favourite PhyxX effects too.
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The reason for my passion was I felt games were too static and desired more impressive dynamic fidelity and realism, which improves immersion and the gaming experience. Anything that improves upon this I become a fanboy.
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^ I miss the smoke/fog physx in Batman AA, it swirled around and had realistic turbulence as your character moved through it. I wish more games used it.
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Old May 20, 2021, 01:48 AM   #5189
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Found an MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING Z TRIO in stock right now.


Only $3000 AUD
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Found an MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING Z TRIO in stock right now.


Only $3000 AUD
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