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Old Sep 11, 2020, 10:38 AM   #181
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Well I am getting a 3080 mainly because of DLSS, plus the fact that is has DLSS for VR as well which is a huge thing to have, when these glasses resolutions are getting higher and higher.
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Old Sep 11, 2020, 11:17 AM   #182
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I dont agree that its a smart move based on the trends, If you dont mind waiting another 6 months it might be a smart move, There is not going to be stock of Nvidia cards in the short term and the price is going to sky rocket in my opinion.
This is the main thing that has been worrying me.

On the one hand I want to wait until November to read reviews of all the AIB cards plus see what AMD has, and really get a sense of what I want to go with. On the other hand though, I'm afraid if I don't try to get something at or near RTX 30 series release date it might be a long time before I can find one I want at a decent price should stock levels end up being poor if I decide on Nvidia.

I'm probably still just going to wait it out, because that's my initial plan and it makes the most sense. Not going to let myself get worked up about it, too many other bigger concerns in life anyways.
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This is the main thing that has been worrying me.

On the one hand I want to wait until November to read reviews of all the AIB cards plus see what AMD has, and really get a sense of what I want to go with. On the other hand though, I'm afraid if I don't try to get something at or near RTX 30 series release date it might be a long time before I can find one I want at a decent price should stock levels end up being poor if I decide on Nvidia.

I'm probably still just going to wait it out, because that's my initial plan and it makes the most sense. Not going to let myself get worked up about it, too many other bigger concerns in life anyways.
It's the smart move, stick with it.
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No games require graphics upgrade until November anyways and in November there will be a real fight for people’s dollars by both MS, Sony, Nvidia and AMD.
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For those of us with 1080Ti's, we've been needing a graphics upgrade for many games for a couple years now.
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For those of us with 1080Ti's, we've been needing a graphics upgrade for many games for a couple years now.
Maybe for the few people who play at 4k, but for most I would say KAC is correct in that Cyberpunk might be the first big title in a long time to really push a lot of people to feel the need to upgrade. Not really out of necessity though, just out of desire to play a highly anticipated premier title at the best performance and graphics detail they can. Most people, yes MOST - not Rage3d people, actually don't need bleeding edge hardware, 4k res, and all max settings.

I'm still on a 980 Ti at 1440p and its been chugging along just fine getting me at or near 60fps with mostly max settings in current high demand titles like Death Stranding. If you take recent reports of how many people actually game at 4k its still an extremely small percentage of gamers.
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Maybe for the few people who play at 4k, but for most I would say KAC is correct in that Cyberpunk might be the first big title in a long time to really push a lot of people to feel the need to upgrade. Not really out of necessity though, just out of desire to play a highly anticipated premier title at the best performance and graphics detail they can. Most people, yes MOST - not Rage3d people, actually don't need bleeding edge hardware, 4k res, and all max settings.

I'm still on a 980 Ti at 1440p and its been chugging along just fine getting me at or near 60fps with mostly max settings in current high demand titles like Death Stranding. If you take recent reports of how many people actually game at 4k its still an extremely small percentage of gamers.
OMG, you've really got to stop being so defensive about hardware/graphics, etc.

I made a joke to KAC where we both were likely implying 4k.
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4K60 is not really what I am looking for right now. I have my LG CX 55 that I haven't used since arrival because I can't game at 4K60 (even when sometimes 2080 manages to push that through like in MW).
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OMG, you've really got to stop being so defensive about hardware/graphics, etc.

I made a joke to KAC where we both were likely implying 4k.
I'm not being defensive, just posting a comment. But I do notice a lot of people on here get triggered by my posts lol.

I think I bring a different point of view that some here are just not used to hearing.
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Not sure I'd say Death Stranding is a demanding title either.

My 1660ti is good enough for 98% of game at max details at 2560x1080, but VR it falls apart on games like Half Life Alyx, or I have to turn details down.

If I wanted low graphics I'd buy a damn toasterbox.
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Not sure I'd say Death Stranding is a demanding title either.

My 1660ti is good enough for 98% of game at max details at 2560x1080, but VR it falls apart on games like Half Life Alyx, or I have to turn details down.

If I wanted low graphics I'd buy a damn toasterbox.
Yeah, I guess it is fairly well optimized for older systems.

Not sure what happened to Horizon Zero Dawn then, which also uses the Decima engine.
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Yeah, I guess it is fairly well optimized for older systems.

Not sure what happened to Horizon Zero Dawn then, which also uses the Decima engine.
DLSS not supported there, real shame.
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Death Stranding is less demanding, almost no vegetation, textures are not that diverse in a small area, almost no NPC's.

It's a good looking game for sure, but asset wise it's very sparse and open.
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I would say yes if not 2.0 or at least the the middle ground that only control uses.
It’s crap on all the original games.
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Old Sep 11, 2020, 09:28 PM   #207
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I dont agree that its a smart move based on the trends, If you dont mind waiting another 6 months it might be a smart move, There is not going to be stock of Nvidia cards in the short term and the price is going to sky rocket in my opinion.
If stock is really that low then you're saying Nvidia flat out failed this gen. In that case all AMD has to do is get products to market.

But if Nvidia really thought they couldn't deliver cards to sell why would they price the 3080 as they have? I just don't see the pricing reflecting this extreme scarcity some people seem to be worried about. Maybe there won't be that many available at release, but 2 months out things should look better, IMO.

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Maybe for the few people who play at 4k, but for most I would say KAC is correct in that Cyberpunk might be the first big title in a long time to really push a lot of people to feel the need to upgrade. Not really out of necessity though, just out of desire to play a highly anticipated premier title at the best performance and graphics detail they can. Most people, yes MOST - not Rage3d people, actually don't need bleeding edge hardware, 4k res, and all max settings.

I'm still on a 980 Ti at 1440p and its been chugging along just fine getting me at or near 60fps with mostly max settings in current high demand titles like Death Stranding. If you take recent reports of how many people actually game at 4k its still an extremely small percentage of gamers.
The truth is the only reason you really need high end hardware at this point is: 4K, 1440P 144 Hz, or VR. Anything other than that and you're probably fine with a midrange or even a low end card. If it weren't for VR and the fact I now have a 1440P 144 Hz monitor, I'd be running an RX 5700 if not an RX 580.

Point being, if you're happy with what you've got then more power to you. You end up saving a lot of money that way.
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Old Sep 11, 2020, 09:56 PM   #208
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If stock is really that low then you're saying Nvidia flat out failed this gen. In that case all AMD has to do is get products to market.

But if Nvidia really thought they couldn't deliver cards to sell why would they price the 3080 as they have? I just don't see the pricing reflecting this extreme scarcity some people seem to be worried about. Maybe there won't be that many available at release, but 2 months out things should look better, IMO.



The truth is the only reason you really need high end hardware at this point is: 4K, 1440P 144 Hz, or VR. Anything other than that and you're probably fine with a midrange or even a low end card. If it weren't for VR and the fact I now have a 1440P 144 Hz monitor, I'd be running an RX 5700 if not an RX 580.

Point being, if you're happy with what you've got then more power to you. You end up saving a lot of money that way.
i think they jumped the gun to get out before AMD .
a point that AMD might have something as good or better than the 3080 and why the lower price

so low stock to start

and with low yields and mining it could be months
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Old Sep 11, 2020, 10:15 PM   #209
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Why would NV release their GPUs at a lower price now when there is no competition?

Wouldn't it be a wiser idea to bump the price now for 2.5 months and then drop the price when Navi comes out, IF, AMDs GPUs are on par?
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Old Sep 11, 2020, 10:35 PM   #210
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I haven't been keeping up with this thread so maybe it's already been discussed but Nvidia announced that it's NDA has been pushed back until September 16th and they have announced the release date for the 3070 will launch on October 15th.

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