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Old Feb 12, 2021, 09:42 PM   #31
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My water block is here. I'm almost afraid to put it on the damn thing. Can you even get a replacement?
You and nunz have way more balls than I do. I'd be terrified to break the 3080 which I can't replace.
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Old Feb 12, 2021, 10:03 PM   #32
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You and nunz have way more balls than I do. I'd be terrified to break the 3080 which I can't replace.
does EVGA void warranty now for fan replace ?
and didn't they put them on for you for a fee or was that BFG

it's not that hard if your careful

with ASUS it's better to but them with a block on it
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 02:33 AM   #33
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My water block is here. I'm almost afraid to put it on the damn thing. Can you even get a replacement?
I put one on a 3090. You'll be fine. Just take your time and keep the old parts.

Depending on the vendor, they keep a percentage of cards on hand for replacements.

If you can put a cooler on a CPU you can put it on a GPU. It's just a few more screws...
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 06:48 AM   #34
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I saw some of Steve's teardowns of 3080s and some of them were quite hard with hidden screws and caked on thermal paste that required a considerable amount of force to remove.
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 08:34 AM   #35
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EVGA allows removal of the cooler without voiding the warranty. You just have to send it back with the original cooler on it though.
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That keeps me right on track to have a new card by mid 2022.

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^^^My thoughts too guys.

I wish I wish I wish I had jumped on a couple of different bandwagons across different launches. I didn't know it would get this bad for hardware.
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^^^My thoughts too guys.

I wish I wish I wish I had jumped on a couple of different bandwagons across different launches. I didn't know it would get this bad for hardware.
Yeah this is unprecedented, nobody saw this coming. Another 2020/covid aberration.
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I'm wondering if I'll be seeing my EVGA 3080 step up before a year has passed from release. Glad I opted to enter the queue with a 2080 Super instead of a 2070 Super.
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I just browsed craigslist for grins and giggles. The same 1070 I have is ~$600. 2080 (multiple versions) are north of 2k and people are listing 3090s for $3500.

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Do you want the good news or the bad news first? I'm going to make the call for you, my rhetorical friend: The bad news is that Nvidia's GPU supply will continue to be royally screwed (a suddenly more now phrase...) throughout the rest of the year. Digitimes (via Sweclockers) is reporting that, despite Nvidia's own hints to the contrary, the graphics card shortage isn't going to be eased by Q3 this year.

Personally, I always like to get the bad news out the way first and leave on a high; that whole peak-end effect is real.

Back in January Nvidia's CFO, Collette Kress, said that "we expect overall channel inventories… will likely remain lean throughout Q1," with the intimation that moving into Q2 things would potentially look brighter.

Now, Nvidia calculates quarters slightly differently to, well, everyone else, and so the green team's calendar has Q1 finishing at the end of April. The second of Nvidia's quarters then runs from May to July.

Slightly confusing, the timing may be, but the suggestion is that Nvidia expected things to ease moving through May and on into June and July. That may have been an optimistic reading of her statement, however, as Digitimes is now suggesting that actually Q2 is also looking like it's going to be a struggle and that if you were hoping things would change in the summer you might be rather disappointed.

That said, if you're after a new GPU, Nvidia still seems a more viable option, limited though they are, than any of the latest AMD Radeon graphics cards. You just have to be really committed, and maybe do the hard yards at bricks and mortar retailers rather than simply prowling online.

And why is Nvidia's stock so limited? Numerous factors: Covid-19 supply chain constriction is still a thing, meaning individual components, from capacitors to memory, are harder or more expensive to track down; there has been huge growth in demand for GPUs; and there has been a massive recent growth in the demand for compute power, largely driven by another spike in cryptocurrency prices.

"Our overall capacity has not been able to keep up with that overall strong demand that we have seen," Kress said in January. "We’ve seen in terms of constraints, constraints really from the overall global surge of compute and the overall capacity, capacity that may be necessary for assembly and test and/or sub trades as well. But again, we remain focused on this and working each day to improve our overall supply situation."

But Digitimes is also reportedly suggesting that Samsung's 8nm manufacturing yields for Nvidia's Ampere GPUs is a struggle too, with the Korean manufacturer having trouble getting good numbers of working chips from each wafer. Though the veracity of those rumours is still to be confirmed by anyone credible, and I've a feeling there may be some conscious or unconscious bias coming from the Taiwanese publication given the fact that Samsung's gunning for TSMC's semiconductor manufacturing crown.

Speaking of TSMC brings us to the good news. Or the potential good news. Or at least the potential for the possibility of good news. Look, we're hanging on a thread here in the PC hardware space, we need some good news and so we're going to take it where we can find it.

Thanks to Apple releasing some of the stranglehold it had over TSMC's 5nm and 7nm manufacturing capabilities, Digitimes is stating that manufacturers are grabbing themselves some extra supply for the year. Sweclockers claims that AMD and Nvidia are among these manufacturers and, while AMD might focus its efforts on its high-margin goodies—the Zen 3 EPYC server chips—-Nvidia may actually have some RTX 30-series cards being made by TSMC instead of Samsung.

That's some faint tendril of hope there, I know, but if Nvidia has booked a good chunk of capacity at TSMC for some lower-end RTX 30-series silicon—potentially that GeForce RTX 3050 Ti—and is still producing at Samsung for the duration too, that could herald the release of a graphics card people actually want, at volumes that mean people can buy them.

That still means nothing good for anyone hoping to get their hands on AMD's fine-ass graphics cards, but one thing at a time people, the red team has its CPU priorities to deal with first.
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It's hard to see the good news he speaks of though. I'm past my 'normal' upgrade cycle and looking at just biding my time for now. I won't pay outrageous prices for what's available.
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I just browsed craigslist for grins and giggles. The same 1070 I have is ~$600. 2080 (multiple versions) are north of 2k and people are listing 3090s for $3500.

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Lazy8s, on a plus side of things, the delay in production of new cards seems to be coinciding with a delay in new AAA games. So, it's a decent time to wait it out.
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So glad I bit the bullet and got an RTX3090 for £1600 (retail+ £200) looking a bargain now.
Isn't it just insane that that is a bargain today? Glad you got one though. I can't bring myself to part with that much money for it. I'm hoping to get lucky one day like my friend did walking into a Micro Center.
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Lazy8s, on a plus side of things, the delay in production of new cards seems to be coinciding with a delay in new AAA games. So, it's a decent time to wait it out.
Very true - my wife and I are planning on large and repeated doses of that sunshine thing we talk about sometimes Fishing, hiking and the beach. It'll be a great year for it
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It's hard to see the good news he speaks of though. I'm past my 'normal' upgrade cycle and looking at just biding my time for now. I won't pay outrageous prices for what's available.
, bad news needs reposting.
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absolutely the same here (+ system slowly crapping out)

*sigh*
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So glad I bit the bullet and got an RTX3090 for £1600 (retail+ £200) looking a bargain now.
Totally agree. I got mine just before Cream and I got an AIB card and paid 10% over MSRP which I think is reasonable.Been happily gaming with it for three months now and it's been a god send during the last lock down. Reading one of the articles it says it will take four quarters to catch up with demand and another two to get inventory back to the levels it should be at so maybe 18 months. Looks like the 3xxx series might last as long as the 2xxx series
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absolutely the same here (+ system slowly crapping out)

*sigh*
I just ran full windows updates etc on my rig. 3570k + 1070 which does surprisingly well, even at 1440p on some titles....it's been a trooper so far, so I'm hoping it lasts another ~few months at least.
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I just ran full windows updates etc on my rig. 3570k + 1070 which does surprisingly well, even at 1440p on some titles....it's been a trooper so far, so I'm hoping it lasts another ~few months at least.
That CPU served me well for 8 years.
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That CPU served me well for 8 years.
I just moved on from mine.

I really didn't notice much gain except in the one game I upgraded for: FSX
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That CPU served me well for 8 years.
I paid $80 for it years ago. It's one of the best values I've ever gotten for a PC build.

Now I need someone with an extra 30x0 to feel really sorry for me for another good deal
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I just moved on from mine.

I really didn't notice much gain except in the one game I upgraded for: FSX
You moved on to the same CPU I did!!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2021, 05:19 PM   #58
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I got a stock alert last night for an MSI Suprim 3080 and when I clicked on the link it was £1,499.99 WTF. That's just £50 less than I paid for my 3090. They were gone within a few minutes it's just amazing.
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Isn't it just insane that that is a bargain today? Glad you got one though. I can't bring myself to part with that much money for it. I'm hoping to get lucky one day like my friend did walking into a Micro Center.


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I did struggle with the 'value for money' aspect. Never spent anywhere near that before on a card. So glad I did now though as 3080's are now going for more than I paid for this card. I did get £390 for my GTX1080Ti as a bit of compensation.

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Glad I got my 3080 for MSRP of $809. As there is no way in hell I would be paying any of the prices I am seeing now. Also got $375 for my 1080 Ti.
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