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Old Mar 29, 2021, 01:17 PM   #151
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I dunno Pax, my 8086K @ 1440p hangs with the best of them. A 6c/12t CPU is very much the sweet spot today. Problem is that CPU prices for AMD have gone crazy. The same 3600 Ryzen I got for $150 last summer cannot be had today for less than $200. A 5600X is $300 and and Intel 10900KF is as low as $316 at Microcenter?

Crazy....
I might have to buy in the US next year if this keeps up. The 5600x up here is 799$ or the same msrp as the 5900x.
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I might have to buy in the US next year if this keeps up. The 5600x up here is 799$ or the same msrp as the 5900x.
Oh that's just nuts!
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Old Apr 14, 2021, 09:43 PM   #153
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Some updated numbers on a 3090 on various cpus vs 6900xt:


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Old Apr 16, 2021, 07:49 AM   #154
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Some updated numbers on a 3090 on various cpus vs 6900xt:
6900XT is great but aside from the fact that it's ultra rare in the retail channel the RT performance is not there.
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6900XT is great but aside from the fact that it's ultra rare in the retail channel the RT performance is not there.


what isn't "ultra rare in the retail channel" lets face it the retail channel is broken by bots and greedy assholes and stores selling everything for 4 times MSRP both AMD GPU's and CPU's and NV GPU's

and after 2077 and a few others i can live without RT
last time i tried 2077 looked and ran better without RT

almost seems the more RT the more bugs in a lot of games that takes weeks or months to work out
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honestly it is dx12. game devs trying to implement dx12 for the first time have tons of bugs because they don't know how to tune it well. where dx11 is handled more by the driver / cards. See outriders as the latest example of this.
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almost seems the more RT the more bugs in a lot of games that takes weeks or months to work out
No it really doesn't
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The issues with Cyberpunk have zero to do with RT. Control wasn't buggy at all, neither was Metro Exodus..

Bill just says **** sometimes lol
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The issues with Cyberpunk have zero to do with RT. Control wasn't buggy at all, neither was Metro Exodus..

Bill just says **** sometimes lol
Control was rock solid for me with RTX maxed out but I had lots of issues with Metro Exodus. Game would crash A LOT especially on certain levels. Turning off RTX and some other graphics settings (I think DX12) would always alleviate the crashing.

Wasn't just me either, looking online you will find lots of people had crashing problems with Metro Exodus.
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The issues with Cyberpunk have zero to do with RT. Control wasn't buggy at all, neither was Metro Exodus..

Bill just says **** sometimes lol
the RT is buggy in 2077 or does a glass window always look like a funhouse mirror

plus RT needs DX12 NV has always had problems with DX12 .



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Control was rock solid for me with RTX maxed out but I had lots of issues with Metro Exodus. Game would crash A LOT especially on certain levels. Turning off RTX and some other graphics settings (I think DX12) would always alleviate the crashing.

Wasn't just me either, looking online you will find lots of people had crashing problems with Metro Exodus.
Were the crashes due to RTX or due to DX12?

Bill.. not sure where you got the idea that NV has always had issues with DX12. Once again, sometimes I think you just say **** to say ****. I still love you though.
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6900XT is great but aside from the fact that it's ultra rare in the retail channel the RT performance is not there.
If amd had its dlss tech the rt perf wouldnt be that far off. I mean who knows if amd tech is faster at dlss than nvidia for all we know at a given comparable quality level.

On that note there are some rumblings that it might come out sooner than later... tho maybe only for a game or 2 at first.

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/stat...00342999310341

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If amd had its dlss tech the rt perf wouldnt be that far off. I mean who knows if amd tech is faster at dlss than nvidia for all we know at a given comparable quality level.

On that note there are some rumblings that it might come out sooner than later... tho maybe only for a game or 2 at first.

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/stat...00342999310341

Apparently the next amd driver is significant... we'll see
I agree and AMD is working on its own DLSS solution, I should have stated that at the current time the RT performance is not there.
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Were the crashes due to RTX or due to DX12?
From what i can remember the crashing wouldn't stop unless i disabled both.

Could be misremembering, but i documented my issues at the time in the Metro Exodus thread if you're curious.
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Interesting. I never had any issues myself, but I also didn't finish the game either. I don't care enough to research and go through post history to make an argument against an absurd claim that bill made, no offense.
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Interesting. I never had any issues myself, but I also didn't finish the game either. I don't care enough to research and go through post history to make an argument against an absurd claim that bill made, no offense.
Never change Nunz.

Seriously though, in PC gaming with so many different configs it's not unusual for certain people to have software issues while others don't.

My particular crashing happened mostly on one particular area (desert level), and when shoveling coal in the train which is a heavy RTX section. Other parts of the game were rock solid for me.
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Yeah I remember people talking about the desert area, now that you mention it.

I did, at one point, test the coal shovel thing, and didn't have any issues. I agree with you though; with PC Gaming and thousands and thousands of different hardware combinations, issues can arise just from compatibility. My issue with what Bill said is that directly blaming one aspect of an entire highly complex graphics engine seems ridiculous.
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I actually didn't even see Bill's post. Just saw you mention Metro Exodus and i know i had issues with that game so wanted to chime in.
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