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Old Aug 30, 2020, 09:33 PM   #31
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Ryzen 4000 support popping up in new bios apparently
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So the bios size is what...
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Old Aug 31, 2020, 09:02 PM   #33
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So the bios size is what...
OK so its under 10 megs (9.975KB actually)... supports both apus and cpus...

I call shens.
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Man they added zen 3 support with only half a meg worth of bios data vs the previous bios that was only supporting zen 2.

Cmon

9.63 megs but they cant add zen 3 to x370? BS
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When is this board and proc combo out?
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November/December.
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When people talk about "BIOS size", are they referring to the size in megabytes and the like or physical size? And what is the importance of BIOS size?
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Referring to how much data can be stored in Bios. It can be an issue because like the current situation, when new CPUs are released there may not be enough room to add bios support/firmware for those CPUs, even though the board can physically support them.

I thought a solution could be to perhaps have several tiers of Bios and you just install the version that supports your CPU, but I suppose that just gets too messy for the average user and opens a can of worms concerning tech support for AMD.
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File size in mb.

They could easily segment the bios into 2 lines. One apu and one standard cpu if room is an issue.
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Its gonna be 12/24 still. The 7nm+ node has about 15-20% better transsitor density but its not gonna be enough to seriously jack up core counts. Rumor is zen 4 on 5nm later will do that tho.
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12 seems like a big improvement from the 6 I have right now and will be OK at 5 G.
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You won't see 5 GHz on all 12 cores with amd anytime soon, 4900X will be 4.5 GHz max if I have to guess, a bit more if you're lucky and have great cooler.
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Given that both Ryzen and Rocketlake will have decent IPC gains, I'm fairly confident RKL will be significantly faster for gaming much like current gen. Pretty sure 5.3 all core (or higher) will be achievable on RKL where as OC is rather limited with AMD.

That said, 4900X will clearly be the better buy. 12 vs 8 cores is a hard sell for Intel.. Have had my 10700k as place holder for 4 months now, certain I'd be dropping RKL into this board, but the value just isn't there..

I must be getting old, I've gone from planning an RTX 3090 + RKL build to most likely a far more sensible RTX 3080 + 4900X machine. Sure it's not as fast, both CPU and GPU, but they are incredibly smarter options.
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That was obvious as many expected amd to launch both navi2 and zen3 at the same time.

One big superlaunch.
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Given that both Ryzen and Rocketlake will have decent IPC gains, I'm fairly confident RKL will be significantly faster for gaming much like current gen. Pretty sure 5.3 all core (or higher) will be achievable on RKL where as OC is rather limited with AMD.

That said, 4900X will clearly be the better buy. 12 vs 8 cores is a hard sell for Intel.. Have had my 10700k as place holder for 4 months now, certain I'd be dropping RKL into this board, but the value just isn't there..

I must be getting old, I've gone from planning an RTX 3090 + RKL build to most likely a far more sensible RTX 3080 + 4900X machine. Sure it's not as fast, both CPU and GPU, but they are incredibly smarter options.
The price delta between those 2 options is equal to at least 1 new console purchase and quite possibly 1.5 new consoles. So yes I may end up sticking with a 4900X + RTX 3080 as well.
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Interested to see if its going to be worth popping in a new processor come November as well from my 3700X.
Doubtful, 3700x is a great CPU.
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Doubtful, 3700x is a great CPU.
Will you be getting 4000 series or will stay with 8086K?
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I likely won't feel a need to upgrade to 4000 series when they release, but still good to know i have an upgrade path in the future. Maybe in a year or so if i can find a good deal on a used one I'll do it.

I lived with a Sandy Bridge proc for nearly 10 years. Generally i don't need to upgrade the CPU often.
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Will you be getting 4000 series or will stay with 8086K?
This year just upgrading GPU. 8086K is doing great for me.
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Says zen 3 will have a 10 core part
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Doubtful, 3700x is a great CPU.
Not sure it would really make a difference for me anyways gaming at 4K 60. Been wanting to pull the trigger on a new 4K 120 Hdmi 2.1 tv though. Can’t get myself to do it
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Not sure it would really make a difference for me anyways gaming at 4K 60. Been wanting to pull the trigger on a new 4K 120 Hdmi 2.1 tv though. Can’t get myself to do it

Even although 3700X is still a great CPU. I would rather buy a 4700X over this for just 15-20% IPC improvement. Zen 3 is coming very soon in a couple months. I wouldn't wasted on money on Zen 2 CPU.
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Even although 3700X is still a great CPU. I would rather buy a 4700X over this for just 15-20% IPC improvement. Zen 3 is coming very soon in a couple months. I wouldn't wasted on money on Zen 2 CPU.
Zen2 pricing is gonna drop, and it'll make for an attractive option.
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Might have to rename the trhead they are renaming the new Zen 3 cpu the Ryzen 5000.

They want to align the numbering scheme with the laptops parts apparently.
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Sounds pretty much confirmed. Its Ryzen 5000:


https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75239...yer/index.html


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In a new tweet from software engineer Patrick Shur, we have some new information on AMD's new Zen 3-based CPU family which will reportedly be called the Ryzen 5000 series. Most were expecting the Ryzen 4000 series (which is already inside of laptops) but it seems AMD could leave the Ryzen 4000 nomenclature for its Renoir FP6 (mobile) and Renoir AM4 (desktop) series.

Shur tweeted that we are to expect the flagship Ryzen 9 5900X as a 12-core, 24-thread CPU while the Ryzen 7 5800X is an 8-core, 16-thread design. Better yet, these new samples are reportedly hitting a huge 4.9GHz which should give Intel a run for its money with its 10th gen Core CPUs.
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75239...yer/index.html
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