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Old Dec 3, 2007, 10:32 PM   #1
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Hard Drive Three Generations of Seagate - Comparison

Our staff caveman has been hard at work banging around in his cave with more hard drives than you can shake a club at. urf - ok that was ugly, but this article is not! Jim put together an excellent comparison including single and multiple drives in several different RAID configurations.

Check out Three Generations of Seagate - Compared.
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Wow! I was just looking for something like this.
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Mines a ST3320620AS in device manager, how do I tell what version it is?
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When I purchased my two 1TB drives I actually had to return them a few times. I purchased 2 at first and both drives made a mechanical hum and would not be detected by any system, I took them back and got replacements. The next 2 would not power up at all. I replaced them again. One worked perfectly and the other would head crash with a nice clicking sound at startup and would not be detected, of course turning the drive up side down made the head crash stop and would be detected, but seatools failed on test immediately. I took it back and then tech tested it and said it worked fine. I of course saw he had the drive upside down and as I turned it back over the drive failed again and lost connection within Windows... He tried to tell me its an acutator issue but the drive is fine and refused to replace it... After an hour of arguing and me showing him the print out of the failed drive he gave me another one.... Thats 7 drive now and I've finally got 2x1TB 7200.11 in raid 0.

They more then likely just got a bad batch that someone probably dropped...
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Mines a ST3320620AS in device manager, how do I tell what version it is?
Put that code into the product code box on this page, and it'll give you all the information you need about your 320Gb 7200.10 16Mb Cache Barracuda SATA-2.
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Thanks for the review, Jim! I would +rep you, but the system will not let me.
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Excellent review caveman! And yes, the 500GB version of the 7200.11 32GB drives has dropped considerably. I was able to pick up one for $110 about a week ago, and you can find them for $120-$130 pretty easily.

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Thats 7 drive now and I've finally got 2x1TB 7200.11 in raid 0.
Yeesh, you're a brave soul. I'm not sure I could bring myself to run a RAID0 array on that size of drive. I'd be saving up for one more for a RAID5 array. Hopefully you have a solid backup scheme in place.
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Excellent review caveman! And yes, the 500GB version of the 7200.11 32GB drives has dropped considerably. I was able to pick up one for $110 about a week ago, and you can find them for $120-$130 pretty easily.


Yeesh, you're a brave soul. I'm not sure I could bring myself to run a RAID0 array on that size of drive. I'd be saving up for one more for a RAID5 array. Hopefully you have a solid backup scheme in place.
I've got a third 1TB Seagate 7200.11 now using a Vantec Nexstar 3 eSATA enclosure that has all my MP3's and trash on it. The raid 0 runs my OS/Games/Whatever else. So I will never lose anything.
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I've got a third 1TB Seagate 7200.11 now using a Vantec Nexstar 3 eSATA enclosure that has all my MP3's and trash on it. The raid 0 runs my OS/Games/Whatever else. So I will never lose anything.
What if that externally housed drive fails?
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Must say, a well written review. Just noticed this on the from page TBH.

Kudos to Jim.
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Must say, a well written review. Just noticed this on the from page TBH.

Kudos to Jim.
You may want to start checking the front page more often now.
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What if that externally housed drive fails?
I've got an ol' Maxtor 80GB USB2 HDD, aswell my Dell XPS and Creative Zen Vision M 60GB also has my backup on it. I'm all good
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I've got an ol' Maxtor 80GB USB2 HDD, aswell my Dell XPS and Creative Zen Vision M 60GB also has my backup on it. I'm all good
Good.

Sorry if it seems like I'm hounding you. I had a friend drop off his computer on Sunday worried that his RAID1 array had completely failed (one drive a few weeks ago and now access problems on the second drive). Sure enough, both drives are toast. And he didn't have a backup plan in place (RAID arrays offer redundancy, not backup).
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awesome. that must've taken a lot of patience to do. surprised that the 8204ELP doesn't do interleaved reads in RAID 1 though.

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Good.

Sorry if it seems like I'm hounding you. I had a friend drop off his computer on Sunday worried that his RAID1 array had completely failed (one drive a few weeks ago and now access problems on the second drive). Sure enough, both drives are toast. And he didn't have a backup plan in place (RAID arrays offer redundancy, not backup).
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When I purchased my two 1TB drives I actually had to return them a few times. I purchased 2 at first and both drives made a mechanical hum and would not be detected by any system, I took them back and got replacements. The next 2 would not power up at all. I replaced them again. One worked perfectly and the other would head crash with a nice clicking sound at startup and would not be detected, of course turning the drive up side down made the head crash stop and would be detected, but seatools failed on test immediately. I took it back and then tech tested it and said it worked fine. I of course saw he had the drive upside down and as I turned it back over the drive failed again and lost connection within Windows... He tried to tell me its an acutator issue but the drive is fine and refused to replace it... After an hour of arguing and me showing him the print out of the failed drive he gave me another one.... Thats 7 drive now and I've finally got 2x1TB 7200.11 in raid 0.

They more then likely just got a bad batch that someone probably dropped...
WoW, talk about bad luck I hope the two you got now will be more stable.

Great write there Jim

I was kinda surprised that the 1TB drive beat the Raptor
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Never even saw this till now.

Nice job caveman!

If i could make one suggestion to keep me more interested, it'd be real world results.

I know real world testing is a ***** [pretty much regardless of what hardware is being reviewing], but it's really nice to see, since synthetics really mean nothing to me for the most part.

Good review overall though
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Thanks! What specifically would you want to see? Real world differs from person to person; I'd be interested in running multiple VM's and performance creating, restoring and exploring backup archives.

I don't have access to all the hardware anymore, but I could do a comparison of the raptors with 7200.10 500gb drives.
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a review on the front page?
is Ratchet back???

edit: wait that is not Ratchet.
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I would like to see the comparison between various modern 7200 HDDs and Raptors. I always thought Raptors where superior but after reading your test I realized that it might not be so


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Thanks! What specifically would you want to see? Real world differs from person to person; I'd be interested in running multiple VM's and performance creating, restoring and exploring backup archives.

I don't have access to all the hardware anymore, but I could do a comparison of the raptors with 7200.10 500gb drives.
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If Seagate+Raptor was the only manufacturer of harddrives this could be a relevant article.Fortunately they arn't: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13732
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The title 'Three Generations of Seagate Performance' didn't give you a clue?
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Never even saw this till now.

Nice job caveman!

If i could make one suggestion to keep me more interested, it'd be real world results.

I know real world testing is a ***** [pretty much regardless of what hardware is being reviewing], but it's really nice to see, since synthetics really mean nothing to me for the most part.

Good review overall though
Simple things.

Game/program installs, Windows bootup/loading times, game loading times, WinRAR extraction/compression times, moving files, etc.

I realize that a lot of this stuff is a pain to benchmark accurately, but it's what i look for in reviews of HDDs.
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Nice one Jim!


I'd love to get an mtron 16/32GB fast SSD (OS) and a normal 7200.11. No need for backups- as they die they're gone with the wind.
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