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![]() Information is sketchy still, but apparently Intel is cutting revenue forecasts over this chipset flaw due to it's seriousness. I'm still digging to find info on the flaw itself. The error affects its Intel 6 series chipset, the company said, and it is prompting it to hold all shipments. The design error will reduce revenue by about $300 million. Source: CNBC Update: Thanks to Caveman_jim for this info: As part of ongoing quality assurance, Intel Corporation has discovered a design issue in a recently released support chip, the Intel® 6 Series, code-named Cougar Point, and has implemented a silicon fix. In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives. The chipset is utilized in PCs with Intel’s latest Second Generation Intel Core processors, code-named Sandy Bridge. Intel has stopped shipment of the affected support chip from its factories. Intel has corrected the design issue, and has begun manufacturing a new version of the support chip which will resolve the issue. The Sandy Bridge microprocessor is unaffected and no other products are affected by this issue. As more info comes in, we'll be discussing it in the comments link, just click and join in to get the latest.
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![]() It is a hardware flaw in the 6 series SATA chips. The PCH. There is performance degradation for hard drives and optical drives. Hopefully people's data are not being corrupted.
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A silicon fix means that all your P67 board guys will need to contact your manufacturer for details on replacing the mainboard. |
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Kind of makes me glad I didn't buy into this round. I was this close to ordering a 2600k and Asus Sabertooth, when I decided to instead purchase a Winchester Super X2 and hold off on any upgrades for awhile. Quote:
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![]() To me this sounds like a manufacturing issue - either a cheap or wrong material used, causing the SATA controller operation to degrade over time. As this has been in market since CES, that's not that long at all. |
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![]() The big sites with contacts at Intel are in a conference call, so watch Anand/TechReport etc. for updates on this. |
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This is a big problem.
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![]() This is my only remaining hope to keep from getting rather teary eyed. This is easily the finest rig I've ever built, I've never been so happy with a PC as I am with this one. If I have to break it all down again just to pull the mobo and send it back, I'll be doubly heartbroken. I'm hoping still that some counter-announcement comes out saying it's a specific scenario that causes the degradation and it's something I can simply not do (like using RAID or something). I hate chipset level RAID anyway, so it's not like being unable to safely use it would be any hair off my chest.
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![]() Front page updated with new info, thanks to cavey! I went ahead and quoted the info you brought over and credited you with the find, Cave-meister!
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Per Scott Wasson of the techreport, it's a metal layer problem and so was an easy fix, but a design oversight. Per Anand, Intel announced this today to everyone - partners get notified today - they're screwed. Why are Intel rushing to get into market? Is the Sandy Bridge that delicate they needed to worry about Bulldozers? Last edited by caveman-jim : Jan 31, 2011 at 10:57 AM. |
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![]() Can we call Sandy Bridge a paper launch now, as there won't be volume availability of chipsets and therefore motherboards until April? |
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![]() I'm not giving up on my 4.6Ghz now that I've just gotten there, dangit! ![]()
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![]() 5% failure rate over three years is the estimate. This will cost Intel $1Bn to fix. |
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![]() Yes, but I would not use that PC for any data you need to keep; i.e. unloading your pictures/video from digicams/corders, or recoding home movies, editing documents etc, unless you are using a drive connected to the secondary storage controller on the mobo. Although once the problem starts to appear, your windows install will corrupt itself. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Fortunately, all primary storage is done over on my i7 920 rig as the LAN's local file server. But I would rather not play Russian Roulette with my sweet rig. I wonder how long till Asus issues it's announcements about how they'll be handling this?
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![]() Looks like it affects the SATA2 3gbps ports, but not sure about the SATA3 6gbps ports (there are 2 on the Intel IOH for Cougar Point). |
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![]() Could be, use the two 6gbps ports and the esata/additional sata controller ports? 8million Cougar Point chipsets sold btw, to be recalled. Edit: Yes, using the SATA 3 6gbps ports means you're ok: Quote:
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![]() All devices moved to 6Gbs ports now. I'm not giving my board up. Not till Z68 or whatever it's called at least.
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![]() Doesn't this mean you get a free replacement? Why risk if you can switch. Oke, maybe wait 6 months or so, so you get a new one then. But still, if you ever need 2+ sata ports you are screwed. |
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![]() The whole "6 months or so" bit is what I'm thinking. Maybe more just like 4 months, but I just really am happy with this rig, and the thought of taking it apart just REALLY sux when I have it exactly as I want it.
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0 - 1 = Marvell sata 3: okay 0 - 1 = Intel sata 3: okay 2 - 5 = Intel sata 2: fail but, to move my SSD from Sata Intel to Marvell is really bad idea it slow!
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The only reason Intel did this is so that I can not upgrade. I'll be holding off purchasing my components today with this news release. Although, those I've spoken with say this issues seems to only be related to Intel boards ( not AIB partners ) I'm still going to hold off though and see if any partners release the same info.
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