Dungeoncrawler
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depending on your point of view I guess?http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...-gtx-780-gk110-core-gtx-770-gtx-760-ti-gk104/
NVIDIA GeForce 700 Series Launching in Mid-May
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or depending on your point of view I guess?http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...-gtx-780-gk110-core-gtx-770-gtx-760-ti-gk104/
In other words, the extra SMX, 16 TMU's with 8 extra Rop's and having only 1 GB or extra memory on a 64 bit wider bus, are being payed thru the nose on the current Geforce titan, assuming the GTX780 sells between 499$ to 599$.
It would be a nice upgrade for me simply on the basis that the cards ship with 5 GB of ram onboard and my 3 displays eat up all the memory they can in triple monitor gaming with AA enabled....
It would be a nice upgrade for me simply on the basis that the cards ship with 5 GB of ram onboard and my 3 displays eat up all the memory they can in triple monitor gaming with AA enabled....
Dungeoncrawler
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Just glad my Titans are keeping their value for a little longer
Qb2k5
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I wouldn't mind paying $599 for a GTX 780. Hell I just paid $569 for my almost one month old 4GB GTX 680. I am thinking about taking it back if the rumor is true. I think I have a few more days left at Tiger Direct.
Same here, but not because of any real advantages on the GPU side, which when the GK110 cores are disabled of 2 SMX's, and actually have less memory bandwith than my current cards as they have a 320 bit memory bus, but just the extra onboard memory as i'm running three 1440p displays and they can easily exceed the 3GB present in the HD7970's I've been using till now on the latest games like Crysis 3.
The extra ram isn't an issue for those still using a single display in gaming, or even three 1080p's in surround view or Eyefinity, as 3GB is enough there, but not in 1440p or 1600p using three displays and I can only imagine the voracious amount of memory cards will need with 4K displays, especially when using 3 of them in gaming(ouch).
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So then these new "Titan" cards are really the high-end of the 700 series? Or did I read that wrong...?
If so does that mean this new "Titan Ultra" that is rumored is the GTX 780, the "Titan" is the 770, and the "Titan LE" is the 760, maybe? And will they really sell it for ~$600? Will probably piss off a lot of Titan owners if so...
If so does that mean this new "Titan Ultra" that is rumored is the GTX 780, the "Titan" is the 770, and the "Titan LE" is the 760, maybe? And will they really sell it for ~$600? Will probably piss off a lot of Titan owners if so...
The Titan LE is the GTX780 at the 499~599$ price point and has 2 SMX clusters disabled, while lower end versions(GTX770 and GTX760) use a beefed up version of the GK104 GPU and the current Titan with a disabled SMX drops to 800$, while the Titan ultra with all the hardware enabled within the GPU, takes the 1000$ price point.
The month of may should be quite interesting if this information is accurate, since it puts more pressure on AMD to release updated versions of their cards in order to compete, but risks pissing off those that bought the existing Titan cards at the 1000~1100$ price point, which they were released less than 2 months ago.
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I had a feeling Titan was the high end of the 700 series. Not sure how they'll manage a 790 part, unless Titan takes that place (which would make sense). Even still, the "Titan Ultra" will likely trade blows with AMD's Malta so the performance still isn't anything "new"... only "Titan Ultra" is accomplishing this with only one GPU whereas AMD are accomplishing it with two. I'd imagine "Titan Ultra" could have been the 780, but NVidia anticipated AMD not having a counter part to the "Titan" thus are able to reap major profits by selling the "Titan Ultra" so high.
Follow me here- NVidia announces the Titan @ $1000 a piece. AMD's counter? Malta- a dual GPU part. AMD has also made it clear that they have no intentions of launching the desktop 8000 series this year but will launch additional 7000 series SKUs. This tells NVidia where AMD is likely at in regards to product development- AMD doesn't have a single-GPU ready for mass production that can compete with Titan. They have to rely on Malta for that. Thus NVidia is able to not launch the Titan as the GTX780 but instead have it take the position the 790 would normally fill. This gives them appropriate positioning for the rest of their product line up for the next year- "Titan LE" being the GTX780 (with the original Titan likely being phased out soon), then using GK104 based GPUs (with improvements to efficiency likely) filling in the appropriate SKUs below the 780.
Makes perfect sense. Wonder if that's how it'll really pan out. Does kinda' look that way.
Dungeoncrawler
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Are the waterblocks the same for the 2gb and 4gb 680's?
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5GB of memory at the $499-$599 price point would be very, very nice. 
Rumors had it that AMD's refresh part was ready for a Q1 launch, but that AMD decided to push it back to Q3 for reasons unknown, but either way I am surprised they'll release a GK110 based card, even if 2 SMX's are disabled, with 5 GB of onboard memory at the 499~599$ price point just the same.
It should be a good 30% faster than the GTX 680 cards and likely just as fast as the refresh part from AMD would have been, but I don't think Nvidia are doing it for charity but mostly because they have a lot of spare GK110 GPU's piled up, that didn't quite make it into the Geforce titan cards we see on store shelves or professional cards like the K20( they both only have 1 SMX disabled), so it's either sell them cheap or throw them into the garbage bin.
The reverse applies to the titan Ultra which must be extremely rare in terms of yield because all the SMX's are enabled....It's essentially the maximum that the GK110 can be hardware wise as everything is enabled within it, so there's no defects or redundancies on these chips at all, so it's dishing out all the performance it possibly can and the rest is up to drivers.
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They pushed it back cause of all the business they got putting their grfx cards in both new consoles would be my guess. Put that together with most people in the industry saying "PC is going to die"...i'll bet they are just gonna collect some more profits, then build up their high end PC stuff.
caveman-jim
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No, Titan LE is 780. GK104 will be the rest.
caveman-jim
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This is not true. AMD have stated in financial calls they will launch a new graphics line up this year, which will be Volcanic Islands.
Now reveals more details about Nvidia's Geforce GTX positioning of 780. The new graphics card is facing 1080p120 gaming, meaning play in resolution 1920 x 1080 pixels at 120 Hz. This can be compared against Titan, rendered as an alternative for "ultra high resolution gaming" - that is, higher resolutions and multiple monitors
According to sources SweClockers based Geforce GTX 780 on the GPU GK110 with an unknown number of units, 384-bit memory bus and 3GB of GDDR5 memory. Memory configuration has thus the same bus width as Titan, but only half as much memory. The latter attesting to a graphics card that is not adjusted for the higher resolutions.
Geforce GTX 780 released at the end of May, that is, just in time for the exhibition Computex on June 4th.
Some good old google translate action.
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/16955-geforce-gtx-780-for-1080p-120-hz-gaming
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3GB, lame. 
Qb2k5
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Same. But I do agree with Phrygian that 3GBs is not enough. 4GB should be the minimum for all highend gpus launching this year and next year.
Hapatingjaky
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The 384Bit Bus won't allow the use of 4GB, it would have to be 4.5 or 6GB but still I agree 3GB is meh. But AMD's 7970GHz edition only comes with 3GB as well. AIB's will probably offer versions with 6GB though at a premium cost. My classies have 4GB as opposed to the 2GB that comes standard on the 680.
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