AMD at CES

pax

pax

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AMD just did its presentation and showed some cool laptop cpus... They showed also the desktop 5800x3d thats 15% faster than the 5800. Pretty much what was expected but only that one sku as seems AM5 is closer than we thought because they said AM5 is '2nd half 2022' so anytime after July. Cool thing tho is AM5 Ryzen 7000 can run 5 ghz all core already in the lab.

No navi3 info tho. I think 5nm is booked to the hilt.

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-Radeon 6500XT for $200 US. Not sure what the performance level of this is, Seems like the specs are half of a 6600XT
-Ryzen 6000 series mobile APU, Zen3+ CPU + 12 RDNA2 CU's
-Ryzen 5800X3d (with vcache), seems like the last AM4 CPU (+15% increase over 5900X) spring 2022
-Ryzen 7000 CPUs, Zen4 and new socket AM5 (LGA1718) second half of 2022
 
acroig said:
Is that confirmed for socket AM4?
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Yes but there is a speed degradation at 3.7 to 4.5 ghz max vs 3.8-4.7 ghz on the 5800x. Still they get that 15% after shaving 200 mhz so cache matters and Im sure they will have 3d cache on the ryzen 7000.

Probably one of the reasons why they didnt launch the 5900x3d tho.
 
Nvidias presentation was meh, 3050 low end and 3090ti... but Intel's 12900KS at 5.5GHZ single core and 5.2 allcore was pretty impressive.
 
Yeah I'm kind of guessing here, but maybe the reason they didn't announce more like the 5800X 3D is lack of production capacity. I'm kinda hoping other 3D variants trickle out later as capacity frees up, but we may be well into AM5 by then so it may not happen.
 
Trunks0 said:
Yeah I'm kind of guessing here, but maybe the reason they didn't announce more like the 5800X 3D is lack of production capacity. I'm kinda hoping other 3D variants trickle out later as capacity frees up, but we may be well into AM5 by then so it may not happen.
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Feels like the swan song for am4 for gamers only. That tells me AM5 is 3 to 6 months after so it has me wanting to wait. Hope DDR5 situation is better by then.
 
pax said:
Feels like the swan song for am4 for gamers only. That tells me AM5 is 3 to 6 months after so it has me wanting to wait. Hope DDR5 situation is better by then.
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i need to upgrade my 1900x soon but wanted a 5900X3D 12 core

then upgrade my 3800x with AM5
 
bill dennison said:
i need to upgrade my 1900x soon but wanted a 5900X3D 12 core

then upgrade my 3800x with AM5
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Ya my 1700x is way long in the tooth... Its going to htpc soon. But I also wanted to upgrade that to a 5800x or the 3d one. I just cant justify a mobo for the last gen cpu.
 
Spring is too late. May wait till AM5 and buy it end of 2022. I am in no hurry.
 
Barely wins 3 and ties 3.. and the 3 that "tied" were the CPU limited benches. It's just crap marketing slides and don't mean anything, but showing 3 ties isn't exactly what I'd call high faith in your product.

bill dennison said:
you know the 12900KS is going to draw more then the 12900K
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/20.html

with a 4090 & 12900KS your going to need two PSU s :lol:
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The 12900K is a power-hog in cinebench and P95, but in actual gaming it's actually really efficient - more efficient than my 10900K.

They are idling at 86watts because they made the chip do that - it means they turned off dynamic ratio and turned off the C-States for the chip. My 12700K idles at 10-12watts with C-States limited to C3 (no core goes to sleep). At 5.1 P cores with E cores at 4.1, I only pull 230watts in CB23. You can make any chip pull stupid power numbers if you smash the voltage up lol

As for this 3d cache .. I'm curious how the cache is going to affect cooling. They had to build a strong supporting die and although it didn't increase the Z-height, I don't see how they could have done this without affecting thermal dissipation. Very curious to see a tear down of the chip compared to non 3d cache
 
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we should know in a month or two how the 3d cache will do

but i'll have it under water so it should be fine

i will need a new block as i'm sure the solid copper bar it got on the threadripper won't work

and may not any of the current am4 waterblocks without new mounting as it maybe a taller chip
 
I'd hate to clean thermal paste off the new AM5 processors.


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