Apple running into a giant slippery slope?

We just have to assume that everything we do online is monitored, recorded, analyzed, and sold to advertisers or given to law enforcement on demand. So long as we keep using those services or buying those products, we're agreeing to it.

yup
 
We just have to assume that everything we do online is monitored, recorded, analyzed, and sold to advertisers or given to law enforcement on demand. So long as we keep using those services or buying those products, we're agreeing to it.

that's nothing new (sadly).
 
We just have to assume that everything we do online is monitored, recorded, analyzed, and sold to advertisers or given to law enforcement on demand. So long as we keep using those services or buying those products, we're agreeing to it.

Sure, and it's also worth remembering that MS, Google, DropBox etc etc etc already do stuff like this on your online data. The difference here is Apples system goes through your off-line data.
 
Sure, and it's also worth remembering that MS, Google, DropBox etc etc etc already do stuff like this on your online data. The difference here is Apples system goes through your off-line data.

Yep. Also keep in mind that nothing is really "off-line" when it comes to Apple (or any other mobile device) so long as cellular data is enabled. There's "on-device" and "off-device", but either way the device talks to the mothership on a constant basis.
 
I mean sure, but it's not common, normal or really ok for anyone to force scan your internal storage like Apple is going to do here.
 
I mean sure, but it's not common, normal or really ok for anyone to force scan your internal storage like Apple is going to do here.

I agree with you, and having just gone full Apple a couple of months ago (mobile anyway) I'm not very happy about it. But other than letters, maybe petitions...I have no idea what anyone can do about it.
 
I agree with you, and having just gone full Apple a couple of months ago (mobile anyway) I'm not very happy about it. But other than letters, maybe petitions...I have no idea what anyone can do about it.

The answer to that question is vote with your wallet. But little late for those already in the ecosystem. Gotta say if this expands to MacOS then the little market share they have will likely vanish. Especially in enterprise enviroments. It's a Pandora's box that they never should have even built.

Worth noting this feature basically violates my provinces FIPPA(Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act) laws. As if the AI gets something wrong and it goes for human review, it violates FIPPA. So I sure hope this feature can be completely disabled/removed in managed environments at least.
 
Worth noting this feature basically violates my provinces FIPPA(Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act) laws. As if the AI gets something wrong and it goes for human review, it violates FIPPA. So I sure hope this feature can be completely disabled/removed in managed environments at least.

The footnotes in Apple's documentation (PDF) state that the features are going to roll out in the United States, and no other countries are mentioned. I don't think you have anything to worry about for now.
 
I mean sure, but it's not common, normal or really ok for anyone to force scan your internal storage like Apple is going to do here.

it's bs they will scan everything and sell what data they can make a profit on

making money is all they care about so there is some way they will make a profit on this

maybe they should first look at all those kids forced to make their products first that to is child-abuse :hmm:


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where is my old razr flip phone :bleh:
 
LE uses ShotSpotter in my town, and several surrounding towns use it. It was authorized due to the heavy gun violence here. It hasn't made much of a difference.
 
LE uses ShotSpotter in my town, and several surrounding towns use it. It was authorized due to the heavy gun violence here. It hasn't made much of a difference.

Wouldn't be surprised at all if it has locked someone away who was innocent.
 
We just have to assume that everything we do online is monitored, recorded, analyzed, and sold to advertisers or given to law enforcement on demand. So long as we keep using those services or buying those products, we're agreeing to it.

People think none of this happens?


The internet is basically just a way to say "heres my wallet, passport, identity, etc. You can look but dont take it and use it maliciously ok?"

Anyone with an antivirus or firewall is just saying that to someone behind a window, fence, door, etc.
 
..as if they were actually moral to begin with. Apple works with a multitude of tech companies that have shady alliances (think military tech companies) to boost their profits. And yes, without saying too much, they thoroughly cover their tracks.

I was almost certain I will pick up the iPhone 13 Pro but I am starting to question if it's a wise choice. Living in Hong Kong, granting the government access (Apple will do it cause they are heavily reliant on China) to my local storage isn't at all the best idea albeit I am not one of those brainwashed folk who tries way too hard to "take down China" (which I find retarded IMO). If I wanted an insecure phone, I might as well just get a Xiaomi for a fraction of the price.

Anyway, I digress. Apple is two faced and everyone knows it. They are the type of company that only brings up social justice in America because it boosts their image (aka to again, boost profits).
 
..as if they were actually moral to begin with. Apple works with a multitude of tech companies that have shady alliances (think military tech companies) to boost their profits. And yes, without saying too much, they thoroughly cover their tracks.

I was almost certain I will pick up the iPhone 13 Pro but I am starting to question if it's a wise choice. Living in Hong Kong, granting the government access (Apple will do it cause they are heavily reliant on China) to my local storage isn't at all the best idea albeit I am not one of those brainwashed folk who tries way too hard to "take down China" (which I find retarded IMO). If I wanted an insecure phone, I might as well just get a Xiaomi for a fraction of the price.

Anyway, I digress. Apple is two faced and everyone knows it. They are the type of company that only brings up social justice in America because it boosts their image (aka to again, boost profits).

Hates Apple with a passion but will certainly buy the 13 :p
 
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