yup
the new 3D Mark will have a N-patch test! (aka TrueForm)
and PixelShader 1.4 etc.
so this time it'll be GF3 eating ATi dust while we still can stick by our good n old "Image Quality matters"
the R8500 really seems like my dream of a card EXCEPT! they don't have Video-In, so I guess I'll have to wait for third parties to manufacture such, "Deluxe", ViVo versions